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FOR CONVENING HAS ARRIVED, SO WE'LL START THIS EVENING'S MEETINGS WITH OUR WORK SESSION

[I.Staff Discussion Items ]

FIRST. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR SANDY SPRINGS UPDATES, MISS MORRIS. GET ALL SET UP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THE KIND INVITATION TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO SOME OF Y'ALL. AND TELL THE REST OF Y'ALL MAKE SURE Y'ALL REMEMBER HOW FABULOUS WE ARE. I MEAN, I THINK YOU KNOW, BUT I'M SHERRY MORRIS, I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF SANDY SPRINGS. I'M JOINED BY MY SOME OF MY FABULOUS COMPATRIOTS. WHO IS OUR PRESIDENT, MELISSA PATTERSON, WHO IS THE INCOMING PRESIDENT IN JUNE, DINA CHUMNEY, OUR HIGHLY CAPABLE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. OH, HERE'S THE CLICKER. WE ARE A 500 1C3 FORMED IN 2007 TO BRING FINE ART INTO THE PUBLIC REALM OF OUR CITY. AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE ADDED ART EDUCATION, TEMPORARY ART EXHIBITIONS AND EVENTS TO OUR PLETHORA OF PROGRAMS THAT WE DO. WE HELPED THE CITY, RIGHT? WHY IS IT THERE? WE HELP THE CITY, RIGHT? THE PUBLIC ART PLAN CALLED THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PLAN, AND THAT INCORPORATES ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. AND I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY TONIGHT. BUT GIFTS FOR THE CITY IN WHICH WE DONATE ART TO THE CITY AND WE INSPIRE OTHERS AND COORDINATE DONATIONS FROM OTHERS. ART TO THE CITY. THE ANNUAL ARTS WALK COMPETITION, WHICH IS A SCULPTURE COMPETITION THAT WE DID FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND HOPE TO BRING BACK IN FUTURE YEARS. THE ABERNATHY ARTS CENTER, CITY CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE GOT TO WORK ON THE FIRST ONE WITH COUNCILMAN PAULSON AND TEAM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE BEAUTIFUL VETERANS SCULPTURE THAT YOU SEE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE NEW VETERANS PARK. AND THOSE ARE INTENDED TO GO INTO NEW BUILD PROJECTS OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHEN THE CITY DOES A CAPITAL PROJECT. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT PUBLIC ART IN IT. QUARTERLY EXHIBITS. AT THE CITY HALL GALLERY. WE SAW A FEW OF YOU THERE THE OTHER NIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING. AND THE CITY SPRINGS COLLECTION, WHICH IS KICKING OFF THIS YEAR, AND IT IS FOR THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I'LL GO THROUGH THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. SO GIFTS FOR THE CITY. WE DONATE ART TO THE CITY. WE COORDINATE DONATIONS FROM OTHERS, WHETHER IT'S A PERSON, A FAMILY, A CORPORATION, AND WE ACTUALLY SOLICIT THOSE. ASK PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE DONATIONS, TELL THEM IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. THESE ARE DISPLAYED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE VERY OPPORTUNISTIC. WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP, WE TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE THEN WORK WITH COUNCIL AND PARKS AND REC AND CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. LIKE, WHERE COULD THIS HAVE A NICE HOME IN THE CITY? WHERE WILL IT LOOK THE BEST, DO THE MOST GOOD? WE HAVE SO FAR? GIVEN 18 SCULPTURES AND A FEW PIECES OF TWO DIMENSIONAL ART TO THE CITY, THE ART WE HAVE GIVEN TO THE CITY IS VALUED AT JUST UNDER $450,000 OVER THE YEARS. WE STARTED BY THINKING WE COULD RAISE MONEY EVERY YEAR AND BUY A SCULPTURE OR TWO. IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF OUR EXISTENCE, WE WERE ABLE TO BUY FOUR SCULPTURES. THEY ARE AT THE LIBRARY. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE GOT A LOVELY GRANT FROM NORTHSIDE HOSPITAL AND TEAMED WITH SANDY SPRINGS CONSERVANCY TO CREATE THE PLAYABLE ART PARK AT ABERNATHY GREENWAY. THIS WAS AN ICONIC NATIONAL PROJECT. PEOPLE HAD NOT DONE THAT BEFORE, INTRODUCING CHILDREN TO FINE ART, TO SCULPTURES THAT THEY CAN PLAY ON, PLAY WITH AND INSPIRE PLAY. WE GOT NATIONAL PRESS, WE GOT PRESS. SOMEBODY CALLED FROM BUDAPEST AND SAID THEY HAD SEEN THE ARTICLE AND WERE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH IT, SO THAT WAS A NICE THING. AND SANDY SPRINGS CITY, SANDY SPRINGS GOT A LOT OF GOOD RECOGNITION. IT WAS NAMED THE BEST NEW PARK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTA IN THE YEAR THAT IT WAS INSTALLED. MORE RECENTLY, WE CONTINUE. THERE'S A FEW GIFTS, MAYBE 1 OR 2 A YEAR THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ARRANGE. YOU SEE SOLSTICE, THE BEAUTIFUL STAINLESS SCULPTURE THAT IS IN CITY SPRINGS ON THE OUTSIDE THAT WE COORDINATED THROUGH A GROUP CALLED THE CORNER, THE CORNERSTONE DONORS THAT JUST WERE AN AD HOC GROUP PUT TOGETHER TO PURCHASE THAT PIECE. AND THEN YOU SEE MOON MAN MOVES TO THE RIGHT. HE WAS ONE OF THE

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FINALISTS IN OUR SCULPTURE COMPETITION ONE YEAR, AND HE WAS JUST A LOT OF FUN. AND THE BUDGET, CITY'S BUDGET RAN OUT BEFORE HE COULD MAKE THE CUT. AND SO ART SANDY SPRINGS DUG IN OUR POCKETS THE BOARD AND BOUGHT THAT PIECE. AND HE IS AT HAMMOND PARK. SO THE WAY WE WERE AND CONTINUE TO DO IT IS REALLY GOOD, BUT VERY SLOW. WE'RE A BUILT OUT CITY WITH A WHOLE LOT OF VISUAL ENERGY, SHALL WE SAY, AND TO TRY TO DO ONE SMALL SCULPTURE A YEAR TO BUILD A A CITY COLLECTION WOULD BE FOREVER. THE CITY JOINED US IN THE FUNDING IN 2016, AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. AND WE HAVE A $60,000 BUDGET THAT GETS APPROVED IN THE OPERATING BUDGET EVERY YEAR, AND THAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON THE ANNUAL ARTS WALK SCULPTURE COMPETITION.

IT'S PRODUCED AS PART OF THE PUBLIC ART PLAN, AND THE FIRST EXHIBIT WAS PUT IN PLACE ON CITY GREEN IN 2018. THE WAY THAT WORKS. WE START BY CREATING A LIST OF TARGET ARTISTS, AND THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE DO. WE KNOW AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW THE SCULPTORS AND THE MURALISTS AND THE PAINTERS AND THE WEAVERS AND THAT SORT OF THING, SO THAT WE ARE READY TO GO OUT TO THE RIGHT GROUP WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ART. SO THE LIST OF TARGET ARTISTS, WE PUT OUT A CALL FOR ENTRIES, ARTS AND CITY EMPLOYEES FROM CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND PARKS AND REC SCREEN. WE GET MAYBE ABOUT 120 ENTRIES A YEAR, AND WE SCREEN THOSE AND BRING THEM DOWN TO 40 OR 50 THAT ARE GOOD ART. AND THEN THERE'S A JURYING AND THAT IS ART. SANDY SPRINGS AND SOME FOLKS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF AND SOME LUMINARIES FROM THE ART WORLD. EVERY YEAR WE INVITE OUTSIDE JURISTS TO JOIN US, AND WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND A PIECE OR UP TO FOUR PIECES GET PURCHASED. WE THEN WORK TO TRANSFER THOSE TO THEIR PERMANENT HOMES, IN THE PARKS, IN THE PLAZAS AND. 20 SCULPTURES HAVE BEEN PURCHASED BY THE CITY THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. SO WE'VE PURCHASED 18 OR CAUSED OTHER PEOPLE TO AND THE CITY'S PURCHASED 20 ABERNATHY ARTS CENTER. MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT PROGRAM. THAT BUILDING WAS FULTON COUNTY. AFTER THE CITY WAS FORMED AND FULTON COUNTY ABANDONED THE THE PROGRAMS IN THAT BUILDING, IT SAT FALLOW FOR YEARS, AND THE CITY WAS THEN ABLE TO PROCURE THAT. AND WE ARE UNDER A CONTRACT WITH WITH AN ANNUAL GRANT, WHICH ALSO, ODDLY, HAPPENS TO BE $60,000 TO PROGRAM THAT. OOPS. WE WE TEACH.

WHY IS IT SO SLOW? THERE? NOW IT'S GOING TO GO FAST. WE TEACH 240 CLASSES A YEAR, OVER A THOUSAND STUDENTS. WE DO SEVERAL GALLERY EXHIBITS AND ARTIST TALKS. WE DO FUNDRAISING EVENTS TO BRIDGE THE FUNDING GAP BETWEEN THE 60,000 GRANT AND WHAT IT TAKES TO REALLY RUN AND STAFF THE PLACE, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE SOMETIME THIS YEAR WE WILL OPEN A NEW FACILITY THERE, A CERAMICS STUDIO WITH A COUPLE OF CLASSROOMS IN IT, AND THAT WILL CHANGE THE GAME. WE WE REALLY CAN ONLY DO TWO DIMENSIONAL PIECES THERE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS AND THE GALLERY AREA, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE WILL ADD GLASS FUZING TO THAT BUILDING. BUT WE HAVE TO BUY A KILN FOR THAT FIRST. SO WE ARE OUT LOOKING FOR GRANTS FOR THAT SORT OF THING. WE ARE ABLE TO GET GRANTS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND SOMETIMES FROM THE CITY TO DO SPECIAL THINGS. WE ANOTHER PROGRAM THERE IS SUMMER CAMPS. THEY'RE VERY POPULAR. WE HOST OVER 400 CHILDREN BETWEEN THE AGES OF SIX AND 12 EVERY YEAR. DO I NEED A NEW BATTERY OR DOES THIS KNOW I'M HITTING THAT GUY? YEAH, I'M HITTING THAT GUY. 400 KIDS, THEY LOVE IT. AND DINA AND HER STAFF DO A GREAT JOB. IT'S JUST ENERGY AND FUN. AND THIS YEAR, WE DID GET A GRANT THROUGH PARKS AND REC FOR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S NICE. AND WE'VE JUST OFFERED THAT. WE'VE OPENED UP CAMP REGISTRATIONS IN THIS LAST WEEK AND WE'VE HAD LIKE I THINK ALREADY THREE SCHOLARSHIP STUDENTS COME IN AND BE ACCEPTED. SO THAT'S EXCITING. CITY CAPITAL PROJECTS, THESE ARE BUDGETED AS NEEDED. AND AS THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES WHEN A CITY BUILDS A PARK OR A ROAD OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THE FIRST ONE WE DID, AND IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT, IS THE VETERANS SCULPTURE. WE START HERE WITH PARK DESIGN INPUT. YOU CAN'T JUST PLOP A PIECE OF ART IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK THAT WASN'T PLANNED FOR IT.

SO EVERYTHING FROM SIGHT LINES, PEDESTRIAN SIGHT LINES AND VEHICULAR SIGHTLINES TO SLEEVING FOR ELECTRICITY, FOR LIGHTING, THE FIBER OPTICS THAT WENT INTO THIS, THE WEIGHT OF THE PIECE AND THE FOOTINGS OR FOUNDATIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO POUR. SO THERE'S A GOOD BIT

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OF TECHNICAL PLANNING, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ARCHITECTS AND URBAN PLANNERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND THAT SORT ON OUR BOARD SO THAT WE ARE QUALIFIED TO DO THAT WORK. WE THEN CONSTRUCT A LIST OF ARTISTS. WE DO A CALL FOR ENTRIES. IT'S KIND OF THE SAME PROGRAM. AFTER THAT WE SCREEN AND THEN THERE'S A JURY PUT TOGETHER. THEN WE COORDINATE FABRICATION AND INSTALLATION. THESE ARE COMMISSIONED PIECES. WHEREAS IN THE ANNUAL ARTS WALK, THEY'RE PIECES THAT PEOPLE HAVE CREATED IN THEIR STUDIO AND THEY WANT TO SELL AND THEY SELL THEM THROUGH COMPETITIONS. SO WE'RE COMMISSIONING THESE, WHICH MEANS WE'VE GOT TO MANAGE THOSE ARTISTS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THE WORK ON TIME, MAKE SURE THAT QUALITY IS THERE.

THE MATERIALS THEY PROMISED US ARE WHAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING. WE VISIT THEIR STUDIOS IF IF SOMEONE THE ARTIST THAT DID THE LARGE PIECE THERE WAS OUT IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. SO WE MANAGED HIM THROUGH VIDEOS. AND FACETIME AND THAT SORT OF THING. THEN IN THIS CASE, THE FUNDS FABULOUSLY CAME THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS THAT THE TWO CITY COUNCIL PERSONS WHO WERE WORKING SO HARD ON THIS, COUNCILMAN PAULSON AND COUNCILMAN DEGIULIO, WERE ABLE TO GET A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO ARE JUST SERIOUS PATRIOTS AND AND VERY GRATEFUL TO OUR COUNTRY TO COME UP WITH THESE FUNDS. THE OTHER PIECE HERE THAT YOU SEE IS CALLED THREE GENERATIONS. IT'S A LOVELY BRONZE. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, IT IS A SOLDIER IN UNIFORM WITH A FOLDED FLAG FOR A FALLEN RELATIVE AND HIS LITTLE GIRL BY THE HAND, AND THEY'RE LOOKING UP AT THE ETERNAL FLAME. IT'S CALLED BE THE LIGHT, WHICH I JUST I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY HEARTWARMING TO GO OUT THERE AND AND BE A LITTLE INTROSPECTIVE ABOUT THAT.

CITY GALLERY IS ONE OF THE FAVORITE PROGRAMS. WE JUST HAD AN OPENING THE OTHER NIGHT FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND WE DO THIS FOUR TIMES A YEAR. THE OPENINGS MIGHT HAVE 50 GUESTS OR MIGHT HAVE 150 GUESTS. WE SOLD TWO PIECES OUT OF THE SHOW THE OTHER NIGHT, SO THAT WAS REALLY NICE. IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN THE ARTISTS SELL THEIR PIECES. THAT REALLY, OF COURSE, MATTERS TO THEM. WE DO FEATURE LOCAL ARTISTS IN THIS, AND OCCASIONALLY THE CITY CHOOSES TO PURCHASE A PIECE FROM ONE OF THE SHOWS, WHICH IS NICE. SPEAKING OF THE PERMANENT COLLECTION, CITY SPRINGS COLLECTION HAS BEEN IN OUR PLANS FOR A GOOD LONG TIME. WE ARE NOW ACTUALLY WORKING ON IT. THE FUNDS FROM THE ANNUAL ART WALK THAT $60,000 THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED US LAST YEAR TO TRANSFER AND WORK ON THE INTERIOR FOR A FEW YEARS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO SCULPTURES FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. THERE IS, IN ADDITION TO THE ART PLACES PS ABOUT THE OUTSIDE WORLD FOR CITY SPRINGS, AND IT ACTUALLY HAS PIECES DESIGNATED ON SPECIFIC WALLS AND SPECIFIC HALLWAYS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. AND WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THAT. THE PIECES. THIS IS IN THE PLAN. I'M GOING TO NOT READ THEM TO YOU, BUT WE WANT TO ENHANCE THE ARCHITECT'S VISION, REINFORCE THE IDENTITY OF THE CITY, ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN DIALOG. THAT'S A GOOD THING. CELEBRATE THE CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 22 MILES, ISN'T IT, OF THE RIVER, WHICH IS AMAZING. AND WE WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT AS IT IS THROUGH THE DESIGN PACKAGE OF THE BUILDING WITH FORMS AND COLORS AND IMAGERY AND. OOPS. THE FIRST STEP IN THE CITY SPRINGS COLLECTION IS CALLED THE CITY HALL FEATURE WALL. Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE LIKE A 24 BY 26 INCH BLANK WALL. I MEAN FOOT BLANK BLANK WALL IN CITY HALL. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR SEVERAL MONTHS GETTING READY TO TO PURSUE THAT PIECE. WE'RE BUILDING A BUILDING, A LIST OF TARGET ARTISTS. WE HAVE DONE THAT. I THINK WE HAVE 200 AND CHAROLAIS TO 293 ARTISTS THAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE WILL SEND THE CALL OUT TO THE BUDGET FOR THIS ONE IS $85,000. THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND ON THE ANNUAL ART WALK THAT ROLLED OVER. SO STAFF TOLD US TO PUT 85,000 IN THIS. THIS IS, HOWEVER, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET ALREADY WE PRESENTED THIS.

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON COUNCIL LAST MAY MIGHT REMEMBER WE PRESENTED THIS AND GOT APPROVAL ON THIS. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING AND JUST WANTED TO HOLD UP THE CREATIVE PROCESS FOR THE FOR THE NEW FOLKS TO JOIN, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU ALL CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THIS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AROUND AND WITH US. SO WE'VE COMPLETED THE COST GUIDANCE, RESEARCH, WE'VE COMPLETED THE LIST OF ARTISTS. WE HAVE A CALL FOR ENTRIES THAT IS ON CITY STAFF'S DESK TO LOOK AT. IT WILL THEN GO OUT SCREENING IN MAY, JURYING IN JUNE, FINALISTS IN

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JULY. NOW THIS WILL BE MORE OF A TWO DIMENSIONAL PIECE. AND SO. AND THE THE WALL IS JUST A WALL.

IT'S NOT A STEEL STRUCTURE. SO THERE WILL BE THAT LEADS US THE DIRECTION OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO RECOMMEND HERE. NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SO HEAVY. IT'S GOING TO RIP THAT WALL DOWN OR, OR HAVE HIGH, HIGH INSTALLATION COSTS OR ANY DANGER TO IT. AND RUSTY HAS SAID HE WANTS A HUGE PIECE. I WANT A HUGE PIECE TO WHERE I'M WITH YOU. SO THIS SHOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT PIECE. WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN, THE FRONT DOOR OF IT WILL BE OUR SISTINE CHAPEL.

I'LL GIVE MICHELANGELO A CALL. HE'S STILL WORKING. HE'S ON OUR LIST, ISN'T HE? HE DID GET MICHAEL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DESIGN APPROVAL, FABRICATION, AND HOPEFULLY THE UNVEILING IN MARCH. THE REST OF OF CITY HALL. IT WILL BE TWO DIMENSIONAL. MORE, YOU KNOW, NORMAL SIZED PAINTINGS THROUGHOUT. AGAIN, THERE ARE 29 LOCATIONS ON THE THIRD FLOOR. YOU SEE THE IMAGERY HERE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING. VERY RELATABLE, VERY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND.

THE THIRD FLOOR PUBLIC SPACES WILL BE PIECES PURCHASED BY THE CITY. WE WILL CURATE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL THE 29 OR SO ARE FULFILLED, BUT ALSO FOR THE STAFF AREAS. WE ARE SOLICITING GIFTS FOR THE CITY. SO WE'RE BRINGING, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR SEVERAL PROGRAMS TOGETHER TO COMPLETE THE BEAUTY OF THIS BUILDING. AND I THINK IT WILL TAKE 2 OR 3 YEARS TO GET THAT DONE PERSONALLY. AND THEN BACK TO OTHER THINGS. SO ARE THERE QUESTIONS? ARE THERE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MAYOR PAUL, MISS FORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES FOR THE CITY. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO US HOW OR IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR ART TO BE PLANNED, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE PATHWAY WORK TRAIL SEGMENTATION WORK THAT IS HAPPENING? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED? YES, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ARE DEFINITELY DISCUSSING IT WITH STAFF. I THINK WE'RE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT. INTERESTINGLY, THE WONDERFUL BOARDWALK AT MORGAN FALLS, NOBODY WAS REALLY THINKING ABOUT ART WHEN THAT WAS INITIALLY DESIGNED AND WHEN THE RIGHT WHEN THE EASEMENTS WERE NEGOTIATED. AND THEN SANDY SPRINGS CONSERVANCY BOUGHT ONE OF OUR PIECES, WHICH HAS A 4X4 FOOT BASE, AND CITY STAFF IS HAVING TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE A LITTLE ADDITION TO THE EASEMENT. SO WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING AT THE TABLE, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH THE TRAILS WILL BE IN THE COMP PLAN IF THERE'S A PARK PLAN PURSUED, BEING AT THE TABLE TO JUST KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR SACRED AGENDA AND HELP MAKE SURE THAT THERE THERE'S LAND FOR IT, MAKE SURE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE PIECES ALONG THE TRAIL, MAYBE WE SLEEVE UNDER THE MACADAM WHEN IT'S POURED, AND SO WE CAN SLIP UTILITIES THROUGH THERE AND LIGHT IT, THAT SORT OF THING. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. YES, WE VERY MUCH HAVE PARTICIPATED AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING. AND IN SOME PLACES WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RETROFITTING TO DO, LIKE WITH THE PATH. YES, RIGHT. BUT BETTER TO GET IT. I MEAN, THERE'S NO COST TO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW OTHER THAN THE STAFF TIME. IT'S JUST LIKE, OH MAN, SOMEBODY HAS TO GO BACK AND DO THAT LITTLE THING NOW, YOU KNOW? SO WE WANT TO CATCH ALL THAT UP FRONT. AND THERE ARE ALSO OPPORTUNITIES AS AS THESE THINGS ARE PLANNED. IF THERE'S A WALL THAT WOULD NORMALLY JUST BE LET'S BUY SOME CAPSTONE AND PUT IT ON IT. IT'S PROBABLY CHEAPER TO DO A MURAL AND CERTAINLY MORE IMPACTFUL. SO IF WE'RE AT THE TABLE OR BENCHES, BENCHES OUT OF CATALOGS AREN'T THAT CHEAP. AND IT MAY BE THAT WE COULD COMMISSION AN ARTIST TO DO FOUR BENCHES INSTEAD OF BUYING THEM OUT OF A CATALOG, AND THEY MAY BE THE SAME PRICE. IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE MIGHT NEED TO GET SOME DONATIONS OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES BUS SHELTERS AND BENCHES AND WALLS AND THAT SORT OF THING TO JUST MAKE THEM ARTISTIC INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL THING. AND THEN I ALSO APPRECIATED WHAT I THINK YOU DESCRIBED AS A POLICY POINT, THAT FOR THE ART THAT'S IN PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC PARTS OF THIS BUILDING. SO INCLUDING THE THIRD FLOOR, THAT'S WHERE CITY FUNDS ARE BEING USED. BUT THE STAFF AREAS, WHICH ARE MORE PRIVATE AND NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, THOSE ARE DONATED ITEMS. YES, THEY ARE. AND THE IF YOU'RE GOING TO CURATE A REALLY GREAT ART COLLECTION, IT'S GOT TO BE CURATED. SO YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE IT. IF WE JUST ASK FOR DONATIONS FOR THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT

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STYLES AND SIZES AND THINGS THAT DON'T HANG WELL TOGETHER. WE MAY GET A DONATION THAT HAPPENS TO WORK ON THE THIRD FLOOR, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE USED THERE. BUT REALLY IT'S THE MORE THE ONE OFFS SOMEBODY SELLING THEIR LARGER HOUSE AND THEY HAVE FOUR PIECES THEY WANT TO GIVE US, THEY COULD WORK REALLY WELL IN A STAFF CONFERENCE ROOM OR A HALLWAY OR SOMETHING. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE CURATED LIKE YOUR PUBLIC SPACES. THANK YOU, MR. CZYNSKI. SO I'M REALLY GLAD YOU'RE HERE, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE CONSTITUENTS ASK EVEN THIS WEEK ABOUT THE WATER TOWER ON MOUNT VERNON BEHIND THE NEW HILLCREST DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THING WHEN YOU'RE LANDING AT THE AIRPORT. YES. SO HAS HAS THERE EVER BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT USING PUBLIC ART TO DECORATE THE WATER TOWER? WE VERY MUCH WANT TO DO THAT. WE HAVE HAD WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER OF THAT PROJECT TO SEE IF THEY'LL IF THERE ARE SOME FUNDS FROM THEM. I THINK THE CITY I'M, I DON'T WANT TO GET OVER MY HEAD HERE BECAUSE CITY MANAGER AND RUSTY PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE MORE CURRENT INFORMATION THAN ME. IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF ATLANTA, AND THEY HAVE NOT CONSENTED TO ALLOW THE CITY TO DO ANY PAINTING ON THERE. I HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES. IT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. YEAH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO GET OUT AHEAD OVER MY SKIS, BUT WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO. AND WITH THAT INFORMATION, I WILL GO AHEAD AND SEE IF I CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER, LIKE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO LEAN IN FINANCIALLY, HOW MUCH? BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE AVAILABILITY OF MONEY CAN HELP. WE'LL SEE. NEVER, NEVER HURTS, NEVER HURTS. AND THE THE A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY OF ATLANTA'S LOGO GOES ON THE WATER TOWER OR SANDY SPRINGS. DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S OTHER FACTORS AS WELL? THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS. THAT'S MY POSITION. YES, THAT'S WE'D LOVE THAT. IT IS AN ICONIC SIZE AND LOCATION FOR SURE. WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL. WE HOPE YOU ALL APPRECIATE IT. YES, MA'AM. DOCTOR KELLY, THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE SCHOLARSHIPS THAT YOU MENTIONED, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY STUDENTS YOU CAN THAT YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IN THE SUMMER? THERE WILL BE 56, 56 STUDENTS. OKAY. AND HOW ARE YOU ALL PROMOTING THAT? IS IT ON YOUR WEBSITE OR ON OUR WEBSITE? IT IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE'RE PROMOTING IT THROUGH ALL OUR MARKETING EFFORTS. OKAY.

AND SO FAR WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GOOD APPLICANTS. YEAH. AND THE CALL FOR ENTRY FOR THE FEATURE WALL WILL ALSO BE ON THE WEBSITE ON, I ASSUME, OR. YES. WELL, OUT ON THE WEBSITE WE DO A FORMAL CALL FOR ENTRIES. OKAY. BECAUSE WE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IS VETTED THAT THE ARTISTS HAVE WORKED WITH INSTITUTIONS, COLLEGES, CITIES, THEY'RE OF THE ILK THAT WE CAN TRUST, THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY PRODUCE THE PIECE AND NOTHING HORRIBLE WILL HAPPEN.

AND SO WE DON'T REALLY PUBLICLY PUT IT OUT, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT THERE IN GENERAL. BUT THAT'S OKAY. AND IF I'M LOOKING AT YOUR TIMELINE, YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY DONE YOUR VETTING. YES, WE'VE GOT THE 290 SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO. AND THEN THE CALL FOR ENTRIES AS FAR AS THE WEBSITE THEY GET POSTED IN THESE PROGRAMS, THESE SOFTWARE PROGRAMS AND THE ARTISTS ARE ALWAYS GOING IN THERE LOOKING KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS DO A BID PACKAGE FOR SOME PAVING OR SOMETHING, THE THOSE CONTRACTORS KNOW TO GO LOOKING IN IN THE DIFFERENT I CALL THEM SOFTWARE PACKAGES, PROGRAMS TO TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO BID A JOB. THE ARTISTS ARE DOING THE SAME THING. GOT IT. LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, I OCCASIONALLY GET, I DON'T KNOW, APPROACHED BY ARTISTS AND THEY'RE SAYING TO ME, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ME TO DO A MURAL? AND THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, DOES THE REVERSE SOMETIMES HAPPEN WITH ART? SANDY SPRINGS, WHERE YOU HAVE MAYBE ENTITIES THAT ARE IN SEARCH FOR AN ARTIST TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY APPROACH YOU GUYS? DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN? WE RARELY GET APPROACHED BY, I'M GOING TO SAY CORPORATE MONEY. AND I WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SANDY SPRINGS THAT THOSE OF US WHO'VE WORKED HERE FOR YEARS KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN CITIES THAT ARE A CITY WITH AN EDGE, AND THEN IT'S RURAL, AND THAT CITY HAS CORPORATIONS THAT BELONG EMOTIONALLY TO THAT CITY. SANDY SPRINGS IS ONE, AS WE KNOW. IT'S A GREAT ONE, BUT A STRING OF MUNICIPALITIES IN THE ATLANTA METRO AREA. SO OUR CORPORATE AND I'VE BEEN WORKING CIVICALLY RUSTY, YOU KNOW, FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS FROM SSRI DAYS. THE LARGE CORPORATIONS WITH MONEY THAT ARE IN SANDY SPRINGS DON'T NECESSARILY RELATE TO THAT. THEY'RE AT A CERTAIN EXIT ON 400 BECAUSE THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN GET THAT OR WHATEVER. SO GROUP AFTER GROUP AFTER GROUP, AND INCLUDING THE CITY HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO NOT REALLY TURN UP A LOT OF DOLLARS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO GIVE IN ATLANTA OR SOMETHING. THE CORPORATIONS.

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SO WE RARELY GET APPROACHED WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS MONEY BURNING A HOLE IN THEIR POCKET.

WE GET APPROACHED BY THE ARTISTS A LOT, AND PLEASE SEND THEM TO US THROUGH DINA, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. AND AGAIN, AS WE WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND YOUR PLANNERS ON THE UPCOMING PLANS, WE WILL SEE OPPORTUNITIES THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL SAY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT BUY A BUNCH OF EXPENSIVE STONE AND TO INSTEAD JUST PLAN IT AS A MURAL, YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT AS A CONCRETE WALL AND LET'S OR AS SOMETHING ELSE AS A MOSAIC, AS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. SO THOSE ARE THOSE WOULD BE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? INPUT. SHERRY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ART SANDY SPRINGS DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE VERY ENGAGED. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AT THE ART CENTER, ALL THE THINGS YOU DO TO HELP US WITH ART AROUND HERE. IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DISCUSS DURING THE WORK SESSION?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.