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ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE ON SUNDAY NIGHT? THE TIME FOR CONVENING HAS ARRIVED. BUT BEFORE WE START THIS EVENING'S. SERIES OF MEETINGS, OCTOBER 7TH IS A ANOTHER DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY IN THE WORLD HISTORY. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMEMBER REMEMBRANCE OF THE VICTIMS OF OCTOBER 7TH. SO IF YOU WILL JOIN ME IN SILENCE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON OUR WORK SESSION TONIGHT. ITEM NUMBER
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ONE IS THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION UPDATE. MR. FIALKO. MR. OH, OKAY. MR. MAHAFFEY AND I KNOW MR. MARKS IS HERE, SO. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. TURN. NEED TO GET A MIC ON. ANTON'S WORKING ON IT. GREEN LIGHTS ON. TURN THE PIECES UP. TRY IT NOW. HELLO? HELLO. YEP. THERE. IT'S WORKING. ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MYSELF ANYMORE. SO. ALRIGHT. 2023. THE CITY LEADERS AND BUSINESS LEADERS STARTED A FOUNDATION. THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION, AND IT WAS SOLELY TO SUPPORT THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE. NOTHING ELSE, NO OTHER REASONS. IT IS A 500 1C3 ORGANIZATION. IT IS THE FUNDS THAT WE COLLECT VIA DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS AND TAX CREDITS GO DIRECTLY TO THE FOUNDATION AND WILL BE USED FOR SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, TACTICAL INSTRUCTION CENTER. IT WILL BE USED FOR THAT. NEXT SLIDE. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. GO. SO ANYWAY, THE FOUNDATION HAS AS 19 BOARD MEMBERS, SEVEN EXECUTIVE MEMBERS, AND WE'RE ENGAGED IN HELPING WORKING WITH THE POLICE. THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN GIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. SO ANYWAY WE ARE A 500 1C3. WE ARE SOLELY SUPPORT THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO LET MANNY FALCO, CHAIR OF OUR BOARD, TALK ABOUT FUNDING. THE LESS CRIME ACT WAS ENACTED, ENACTED SO THAT WE CAN REDIRECT OUR OWN TAX DOLLARS TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY OUR OWN POLICE FORCE. EACH PERSON CAN REDIRECT $5,000 UP TO $5,000 OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL TAX LIABILITY TO THE STATE OF GEORGIA, TO THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION, AND EACH MARRIED COUPLE FILING JOINTLY CAN CAN DONATE UP TO $10,000. THIS IS A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR TAX CREDIT OF FUNDS THAT WE WOULD OWE THE STATE OF GEORGIA. ANYWAY. IT IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL DONATION. IT'S A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR TAX CREDIT. CORPORATIONS CAN DONATE UP TO 75% OF THEIR TAX TAX LIABILITY TO THE STATE OF GEORGIA TO THE FOUNDATION. GET A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR TAX CREDIT AS IF THEY ARE PAYING THEIR STATE INCOME TAXES DIRECTLY TO US. WE FEEL IT'S BETTER TO KEEP THE FUNDS HERE IN SANDY SPRINGS THAN TO, IN THE WORDS OF CHIEF SIMONE, SPEND IT ON FILLING POTHOLES IN VALDOSTA OR PAY FOR NEW TROOPER HATS. THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE. WE HAVE A WORKING BOARD. THIS IS NOT AN HONORARY BOARD. A LOT OF TIME GOES INTO VOLUNTEERING TO GET THE WORD OUT WHAT THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION DOES AND HOW TO COLLECT ON THESE TAX DOLLARS. IT IS AN ONEROUS PROCESS, AND IT IS MORE THAN JUST TIME CONSUMING. SOME OF THE MOST OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS HERE, BUT WE'RE ALL HERE EXCEPT FOR BETH BURTON, DONOVAN, DENNY, GAIL. JOHN PAULSON RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU. AND JOEL MARKS IS GOING TO SPEAK IN A SECOND. THAT'S THE SECOND. THANK YOU. I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON MARKETING WHICH IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE[00:05:01]
OF THE FUND. IT'S REALLY GETTING THE WORD OUT DOING BRAND AWARENESS. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS. MANY OF YOU PROBABLY GOT ONE OF THESE POSTCARDS IN YOUR MAILBOX IN THE LAST TWO DAYS. AS WE START DOING OUR FIRST DIRECT MAIL MARKETING CAMPAIGN, WE'RE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET WHERE WE CAN BE. WE POP UP WHERE WE CAN GO, WE MEET WITH LOCAL CPAS, TAX PROFESSIONALS. I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT THIS YEAR, SO FAR, YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE FOURTH IN THE STATE ON FUNDRAISING FOR OUR POLICE FOUNDATION. THAT'S OUT OF 62 INDEPENDENT POLICE FOUNDATIONS TODAY, RIGHT? NUMBER ONE AND TWO IS THE CITY OF ATLANTA. THEY HAVE TWO. SO THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE AHEAD OF US. AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK HARD TO RECLAIM OUR POSITION.THAT SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY RIGHT UP THERE WITH ATLANTA AND THE OTHERS. SO IT IS LIKE BRAND. IT IS MOVING SLOW THAN WE WANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THERE'S A BIG EDUCATION AND IT'S A RATHER CUMBERSOME PROCESS FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT USED TO ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO THE CLICKER. OH THANK YOU. OUR FUNDRAISING GOAL FOR THIS YEAR IS $3 MILLION. THROUGH THE LESS CRIME ACT. WE RAISED APPROXIMATELY $700,000 LAST YEAR, 600 AND CHANGE LAST YEAR WERE OVER 700. RIGHT NOW THIS IS OUR FISCAL YEAR ENDED JUNE 30TH, WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S OUR GOAL FOR OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING, PLUS ABOUT ANOTHER $250,000 IN CHARITABLE DONATIONS THAT ARE NOT TAX CREDITS, WHICH WOULD NET US ABOUT $3 MILLION TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE BEST POLICE FORCE IN THE COUNTRY SITTING RIGHT BEHIND ME. SO THAT IS OUR FOCUS GOAL. OUR LONG TERM GOAL IS TO RAISE THE 40 TO $50 MILLION PLUS THAT WILL NEED TO HELP FUND THE FUTURE TACTICAL INSTRUCTION CENTER THAT IS, THAT COUNCIL'S BEEN BRIEFED UPON BEFORE. THERE IS A LIMIT OF $3 MILLION PER POLICE FOUNDATION IN THE GEORGIA LAW. IT'S SUBJECT TO AN OVERALL LIMIT OF 75 MILLION. THIS LAST YEAR, ABOUT 12 MILLION WAS RAISED THIS YEAR, SEVEN AND A HALF SO FAR. SO THAT UNLIKE THE SO OUR STUDENT SCHOLARSHIP ORGANIZATIONS, WE'LL EVENTUALLY GET THERE. THE OTHER POLICE FOUNDATIONS WILL GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. THERE'S ANOTHER 40 OR 50 THAT WILL BE FORMED. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE FIRST TO MARKET TO GET OUR MONEY BEFORE OTHER PEOPLE CATCH UP. SO 3 MILLION WE BELIEVE, IS ACHIEVABLE IN THIS REALLY THE FIRST YEAR OF THE NEW BOARD, THE LONG TERM GOAL, LIKE I SAID, IS TO RAISE THE MONEY NECESSARY TO HELP SANDY SPRINGS BUILD THE NEXT COMPONENT OF ITS JUSTICE CENTER, THE TACTICAL INSTRUCTION CENTER. I SPEND TIME GOING THROUGH IT, BUT YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I PROBABLY DO. WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG LIFT. IT'LL BE ON THE LAND NEXT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS AND JUSTICE CENTER. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT WE'LL BE GET GET BUSY ON THIS PART OF THE PROJECT IN Q1 OF NEXT YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR.
IT'LL GIVE US TIME TO PUT A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TOGETHER. THE CASE FOR GIVING IRON OUT THE LEGAL DETAILS WITH MY GOOD FRIEND DAN LEE AND THE EDEN HERE ON THE CITY AND THE CHIEF AS TO WHAT THE USE OF PROCEEDS WILL BE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO RAISE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TOWARDS THE ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETION OF THE CENTER. THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO HANDLING THE DAY TO DAY, YEAR TO YEAR NEEDS OF THE POLICE FOUNDATION. SO NEXT, THESE ARE RENDERINGS YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. I WON'T TAKE UP MUCH MORE OF OUR TEN MINUTES, SO I'LL TURN IT BACK TO MANNY. SO HOW CAN YOU HELP? SO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, WHETHER YOU LIVE IN SANDY SPRINGS, WORK IN SANDY SPRINGS, OR JUST REALLY WANT TO RESPECT OUR POLICE FORCE, CAN LOG ON TO THE WEBSITE AND CLICK WHERE IT SAYS LESS CRIME. ACT MULTIPLE PLACES ON EVERY PAGE, AND YOU CAN START THE BALL ROLLING BY GETTING YOUR DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE NUMBER. AND FROM THERE THEY'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL CONFIRMING IT. YOU FILL OUT ONE MORE EMAIL AND THEN MAIL IN A CHECK. LIKE THIS. THIS IS STACY AND MY WORDS DON, TOM, DAN, DAN.
SO THIS IS OUR CHECK FOR STACY AND I FOR OUR LAST CRIME ACT HERE, RIGHT? GLAD TO DO IT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE OUR FIRST MAJOR DISBURSEMENT OF $49,135 FOR THE HALF OF THE STUDY AND DRAWINGS AND SITE WORK PLANS FOR THE TACTICAL INSTRUCTIONAL CENTER. THANK YOU. IT'S YOUR MONEY. IF EVERYBODY CAN CHECK OUT THE QR CODE HERE, TAKE A QUICK PICTURE OR LOG ON TO OUR WEBSITE. IT'LL TAKE YOU TO IT AND GET IT STARTED. YOU CAN CALL TOM AT ANY TIME. WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT OVER THE PHONE OR COME MEET WITH YOU ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, OR ANY MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CAN HELP YOU GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF HITTING OUR GOAL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS.
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DOCTOR KELLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MY FIRST QUESTION IS CAN YOU EXPLAIN, CAN YOU HELP THE MYSELF AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION AND THE BENEVOLENT FUND? THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION IS A POLICE FOUNDATION IS A 500 1C3 ESTABLISHED FOR THE PURPOSE OF COLLECTING THE LESS CRIME ACT FUNDS THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE BENEVOLENT BENEVOLENT FUND IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. AND THAT I DIRECT YOUR QUESTION TO KEN DISIMONE. OKAY, OKAY. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE FOUNDATION CAN'T DO THAT THE BENEVOLENT FUND DOES OR VICE VERSA? OR HOW DO WE DRAW THAT LINE? I MEAN, SO, DOCTOR KELLY, I THINK THE THE EASIEST WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO IS THAT THE POLICE FOUNDATION IS ABLE TO RECEIVE TAX CREDITS, WHICH THE BENEVOLENT FUND CANNOT. THEY CAN ONLY RECEIVE REGULAR DONATIONS THAT WOULD BE MADE TO A 500 1C3. GOT IT. WHAT ABOUT THE OUTPUT? SO I'M SAYING IN TERMS OF HOW MONEY IS SPENT, THE BENEVOLENT FUND IS A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED. BENEVOLENT FUND IS FOCUSED ON THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TIME OF NEEDS OFFICERS. WHEN THEY HAVE FAMILIAL SITUATIONS. IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR THAT. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, FOR FUNDING OFFICERS EQUIPMENT, EXTRA TACTICAL THINGS THAT THE POLICE MAY NEED THAT THE BUDGET JUST CAN'T HANDLE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WITH $3 MILLION IN PROBABLY 80 TO 90% OF THE BUDGET DEDICATED TO PERSONNEL. THERE'S NOT ALWAYS THE EXTRA MONEY NEED. WE'RE TRYING TO FILL THAT EXTRA GAP TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE CITY'S ANNUAL FUNDING. OKAY, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD, MR. LEE, STATUTORILY, THE THE POLICE FOUNDATION, THE THE QUALIFIED POLICE FOUNDATION, THAT THAT THE OF THE BOARD OF WHICH THESE GENTLEMEN ARE ON IT'S SET UP BY THE LEGISLATURE AND HAS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.THEIR MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT TO THE CITY. THAT'S MOSTLY THEY HAVE SOME OPERATIONAL COSTS.
THEY CAN EQUIPMENT AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT WITH THE BENEVOLENT FUND, IT IS A STANDALONE 500 1C3 BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR MANY YEARS AND IS SPENT TO OTHER AREAS TO FIRST RESPONDERS IN NEED, FAMILIES OF FIRST RESPONDERS IN NEED. BUT THIS ORGANIZATION'S EXPENDITURE PRIMARILY IS TO THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT HELPS. WHAT'S THE SIZE OF YOUR BOARD? YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT. I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
I SEE THE BYLAWS ALLOW FOR UP TO. OUR BYLAWS ALLOW FOR UP TO 25 MEMBERS, OF WHICH SEVEN ARE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE FULL RIGHT NOW? NO. OH, YOU'RE AT 19. OKAY.
MY LAST QUESTION, AND I GUESS, MR. FIALKO, YOU CAN HELP ME WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW EASY IT IS. SO IF I'M AT HOW EASY IT IS TO, TO DO THE, THE, THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, IS THERE LIKE A TUTORIAL VIDEO? YES. OKAY. THERE IS IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE HOW DO I GET A VIDEO. BUT WE'VE ESTABLISHED ON THE WEBSITE IN ORANGE, OH, I SEE PLACES YOU CAN JUST CLICK LESS CRIME ACT, OR YOU CAN CALL US AND WE WILL WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
OKAY I SEE, YEAH I DO SEE THE TUTORIAL VIDEO. OKAY GREAT. IS THERE A MINIMUM? FOR THE. OKAY.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE MAXIMUM $5,000 PER PERSON, 10,000 PER MARRIED COUPLE FILING JOINTLY, AND CORPORATIONS OR TRUSTS UP TO 75% OF THEIR TAX LIABILITY TO THE STATE OF GEORGIA CAN GO DIRECTLY TO US. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PAULSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. FELLAS. THIS CARD WAS PUT ON MY DESK AND I'VE GOT A STACK OF THEM HERE. AND YOU GUYS HAVE THESE FOR THE FOLKS OUTSIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL FIND ON THIS CARD IS TOM MAHAFFEY'S PHONE NUMBER. I THINK THAT'S TOM MAHAFFEY'S. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HE'S THE GUY. AND HE TAKES THESE CALLS GLEEFULLY, GLEEFULLY, AND HELPS YOU WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH THIS. I JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING. WHEN YOU DONATE TO OTHER NON-PROFITS, SOMETIMES YOU CAN DONATE UP TILL THE MIDDLE OF APRIL. WHEN YOU DO. WHEN YOU FINALLY FILE YOUR TAXES, THIS IS DIFFERENT.
YOU'VE GOT TO DO THIS BY DECEMBER 31ST FOR IT TO COUNT IN THIS YEAR. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE CLOCK IS TICKING SO YOU DON'T HAVE UNTIL NEXT APRIL. YOU HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT SOONER, THE BETTER. AMEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE WORK
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SESSION AGENDA IS THE SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION UPDATE. MISS FIGHT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DEDICATED CITY STAFF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS OF SANDY SPRINGS. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH FIGHT, AND I AM THE VICE CHAIR OF THE SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION. I THINK THIS PRESENTATION WILL GO A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SET UP THE LEGWORK. THE POLICE FOUNDATION, THIS BOARD WAS THIS FOUNDATION WAS ALSO SORT OF RECONSTITUTED IN 2023 AS A RESULT OF I BELIEVE THERE'S A CLICKER UP HERE. WELL, FIRST, LET ME TELL YOU, AS A RESULT OF THE VETERANS PARK AND I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE. BUT OUR VISION FOR SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION, WE ARE A 500 1C3. AND WE'RE HERE TO INSPIRE A VIBRANT, CONNECTED AND CULTURALLY RICH SANDY SPRINGS WHERE EVERY RESIDENT EXPERIENCES THE JOY OF COMMUNITY THROUGH ART, MUSIC, CELEBRATION AND RECREATION. SO OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HELP SUPPORT FINANCIALLY AND SECURE DONATIONS FOR CITYWIDE EVENTS AND OTHER RECREATION ACTIVITIES. AS I MENTIONED, WE WERE FORMED IN 2023. WE ARE A 500 1C3 AND OUR TIE IN TO THE VETERANS PARK. OBVIOUSLY THAT EXISTED WELL BEFORE WE DID. BUT IN 2023, IN ORDER TO PROCURE AN ARTISTIC SCULPTURE TO COMPLIMENT AND COMPLETE THE ESTHETIC OF THE VETERANS PARK PROJECT, THE FOUNDATION WAS TAPPED AS THE VEHICLE TO SECURE DONATIONS TO FUND THE SCULPTURES THAT ULTIMATELY ENDED IN THE PARK. SO WE DID NOT SOLICIT THOSE FUNDS, BUT WE WERE THE VEHICLE, THE 500 1C3 THAT ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. AT THE TIME, I THINK THE SCULPTURES WERE TOTALING AROUND HALF $1 MILLION, $470,000, AND THAT WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CITY'S FISCAL BUDGET FOR THAT YEAR. SO THE FOUNDATION WAS CONSTITUTED, AND OUR DIRECTIVE WAS AFTER WE WERE ALL ULTIMATELY APPOINTED. THE CURRENT FOLKS THAT I HAVE WITH ME HERE TODAY, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH FIGHT. I'M THE VICE CHAIR. I HAVE WITH ME, CHRISTINE PROBST. SHE'S OUR CHAIR. SUSANNA ROME, WHO IS OUR SECRETARY, SHERWIN NELSON CLEMENS, OUR TREASURER. AND WE ALSO HAVE PAM ROSENTHAL, WHO'S HERE IN OUR PARTY PLANNER DU JOUR. ALSO ON THE BOARD ARE EDEN FREEMAN. WE'VE GOT BILL HAGGETT AND THEN THE MAYOR, MAYOR PAUL, OUR DIRECTIVE WHEN WE WERE RECONSTITUTED AS A BOARD WAS TO HELP SUPPORT THE FUNDING OF THE VETERANS PARK. AT THAT POINT, THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO PROCURE PAVERS AND BENCHES TO SUPPORT THEIR LOVED ONES AND HAVE THEM ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PARK. SO OUR DIRECTIVE WAS TO COMPLETE THAT WORK AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD SUPPORT OTHER CITYWIDE EVENTS. SO SINCE THAT HAPPENED ALL AROUND THE SPRING OF 2024, WHEN WE WERE APPOINTED AS A BOARD, THOSE OF US ON THE BOARD ACTUALLY WERE ALL IN THE INAUGURAL CLASS AT THE SANDY SPRINGS CITIZENS ACADEMY, AND THAT'S WHERE I GOT TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH YOU GENTLEMEN. AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR GRADUATION CEREMONY, THAT'S WHEN WE WERE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD. WE ALL KNEW EACH OTHER THROUGH OUR WORK IN THE THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, BUT WE HADN'T REALLY KNOWN EACH OTHER PROFESSIONALLY, SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US. THE BOARD HELD ITS FIRST MEETING OFFICIALLY IN THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF 2024, AND ALL OF US GATHERED TOGETHER IN THE FALL TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROMOTE THESE CITYWIDE EVENTS? JUST LIKE THE POLICE FOUNDATION BOARD, WE'RE A WORKING BOARD. WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE SATISFIED JUST SITTING THERE AND NOT DOING ANYTHING. SO WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO, WHAT WAS WITHIN THE SCOPE, UNLIKE THE POLICE FOUNDATION, THEY HAVE A STATUTORY CONSTRUCT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW. WE WERE JUST GIVEN LICENSE TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS AND PARTICULARLY THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S WHEN WE DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY ON THE FORMATTING IS NOT GREAT ON THE SLIDE. IT LOOKS PRETTIER IN REAL LIFE THAT THE CITY PUTS ON A NUMBER OF SIGNATURE EVENTS UP THERE. I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT 13 EVENTS. WE ALL KNOW THOSE, THE MOST RECENT ONE BEING THE BLUESTONE ARTS FESTIVAL THAT I WENT TO THIS PAST WEEKEND OR TWO WEEKENDS AGO, AND IT WAS LOVELY AND COMING UP AS OKTOBERFEST, AND WE REALIZED THAT ALL THESE EVENTS ARE PUT ON AT NO COST TO OUR CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY INCUR A COST FOR THE CITY TO PUT THEM ON. AND SO THE THE FONT IS SMALL, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU ALL. THIS IS FROM OUR BUDGET PAGE 137 OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET. AND THE BIG PICTURE ITEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE OF YOU CAN SEE THIS VERY WELL, AND THOSE OF YOU FROM HOME, IT'LL BE BLOWN UP AND YOU CAN SEE IT. BUT THESE EVENTS COST THE CITY ROUGHLY $900,000. I THINK THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN. IT WAS 970 TO MAYBE 915.
ALL OF THESE EVENTS HAVE EXPENDITURES WITH THEM AND THEY DON'T OFTEN GENERATE REVENUE.
SO OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL WAS HOW CAN WE HELP CREATE SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO HELP FUND THESE EVENTS AND DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS OF THESE EVENTS THAT ARE CITIZENRY COUNTS ON NOW. IT'S A PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO COME TOGETHER, TO HAVE FUN, TO CELEBRATE, TO CELEBRATE THE CITY, TO CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CONNECTION. AND WE WANT THOSE EVENTS TO GO ON IN PERPETUITY. SO OUR GOAL IS TO HELP DEFRAY THOSE COSTS. IN ADDITION, WE
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REALIZE THAT NOT EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, EVERY FOUNDATION CAN HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THESE EVENTS. SO WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT OTHER EVENTS OR OTHER WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE COULD GET INVOLVED TO HELP SUPPORT THE THINGS IN SANDY SPRINGS THAT THEY LIKE.SO FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH OUR WEBSITE, YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE TO ATTEND A YOUTH SUMMER CAMP. WE'VE GOT SPORTS CAMPS OF VARIOUS KINDS $85 PAYS FOR SPORTS CAMP, $185 PAYS FOR SOMEONE TO ATTEND AN ARTS CAMP. YOU CAN MAKE THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH US, AND WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION OR THE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT.
LIKEWISE, WE KNOW THE CITY IS KNOWN FOR ITS ADAPTIVE RECREATION. BUT THAT EQUIPMENT, THOSE ADAPTIVE BIKES, ADAPTIVE KAYAKS, TRANSPORTING THOSE THINGS, THOSE COST SIGNIFICANT, THAT COST A SIGNIFICANT SUM OF MONEY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALSO IS HELP RAISE MONEY AND AWARENESS SO THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE FLEET, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE SANDY SPRINGS ADAPTIVE BIKES, THE KAYAKS AND THE OTHER THINGS. I KNOW. FOR EXAMPLE, THE SUMMER YOU ALL ADDED ADAPTIVE FISHING AS SOMETHING, BUT THAT REQUIRES SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THAT SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT. SO I SAY THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO. THIS IS HOW WE CAN HELP FUND THESE THINGS. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS, BUT WE REALIZE THAT BECAUSE WE WERE A NASCENT BOARD AND WE NEEDED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHO WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN BUSY THIS YEAR IN PLANNING A PARTY, AND THAT IS THE PARTY WITH THE TENT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CITY GREEN THAT YOU SEE BEING PUT UP RIGHT NOW. SO THIS THURSDAY WE'VE CREATED AN EVENT. SO WE WENT FROM A BOARD WHO ALL MET EACH OTHER FOR THE FIRST TIME, REALLY, AND WORKED TOGETHER LAST OCTOBER TO THIS THURSDAY WE ARE HAVING CELEBRATE CITY SPRINGS, WHICH IS A 20TH ANNIVERSARY PARTY TO HONOR THE CITY. AND THE GOAL IS TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE THINGS THAT WE EXACTLY TOLD YOU ABOUT AND TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE THINGS.
IT'S A WAY TO INTRODUCE US TO THE COMMUNITY AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STATUTORY CONSTRUCT THAT THE POLICE FOUNDATION HAS, AND IT'S A NATURAL THING PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE TO. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT US. SO THIS THURSDAY AT 630, WE'RE HAVING OUR PARTY ON CITY GREEN. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND FOR A BOARD THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME AMAZING COMMUNITY SUPPORT ALREADY. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO MANY OF OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE LARGER BUSINESSES, GLOBAL BUSINESSES THAT DO BUSINESS IN SANDY SPRINGS. AND ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE SO HAPPY FOR THEM. THE SUPPORT HAS BEEN AMAZING. SO FOR THIS EVENT, WE HAD BUDGETED OR PROJECTED THAT WE WOULD HOPEFULLY RAISE ABOUT $118,000 BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, WHEN I HAD TO GET THIS POWERPOINT TOGETHER, WE'D ALREADY RAISED OVER $128,000. I'LL TELL YOU THIS THE EVENT STARTED. IT WAS AT FIRST GOING TO BE HERE IN STUDIO THEATER, AND THEN WE GOT TOO BIG FOR THAT, AND THEN WE MOVED IT OUT TO THE LOBBY, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE THE PAVILION AND THE LOBBY, AND WE WERE GOING TO MARRY ALL THESE SPACES TOGETHER, AND WE GOT TOO BIG FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE NOW HAVE THIS TENT. IT CAN HOLD UP TO 500 PEOPLE. WE SOLD 340 TICKETS AS OF 4:00 THIS AFTERNOON. AND I IMAGINE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LATE TO THE PARTY ALL THE TIME, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TICKET SALES OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. WE'RE VERY EXCITED. AND FOR THAT WE ALSO HAVE QR CODES. SO I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR QR CODE.
I THINK WE HAD SOMEONE ALSO HANDING OUT SOME THINGS, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THIS YOU CAN BUY A TICKET AND COME TO THE PARTY. IF THAT'S NOT YOUR THING AND YOU DON'T WANT TO COME TO A PARTY, YOU CAN STILL SUPPORT BY PARTICIPATING IN THE RAFFLE AND THE AUCTION.
THE AUCTION IS LIVE NOW. THE RAFFLE IS LIVE. PEOPLE CAN DO THAT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN CHOOSE TO ATTEND. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY THE ADAPTIVE RECREATION PIECE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE AND DO REGULAR SILENT AUCTION TYPE THINGS THAT ARE FUN, BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO THE ADAPTIVE RECREATION NEEDS. AND WE'VE GOT THEM DIVVIED UP LIKE AN ADAPTIVE REC BIKE IS $5,000. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF WE CAN GET TEN PEOPLE TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTION, WE COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD ADD THAT. SO THERE ARE WAYS FOR YOU TO GIVE AND SUPPORT WELL BEYOND THAT. IF GOING TO A PARTY IS NOT FOR YOU, I STILL INVITE YOU TO COME TO OUR WEBSITE, LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE, AND THOSE ARE ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN HELP SUPPORT. AND GOING FORWARD, OUR GOALS ARE TO COME UP WITH WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO DIRECTLY SPONSOR EVENTS. THE MINUTE WE BUILT THE WEBSITE AND IT WENT LIVE, WE HAD A MAJOR CORPORATION CONTACT US ABOUT SPONSORING CITY GREEN, THE CONCERT SERIES. IT WAS TOO LATE IN THE SEASON TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, BUT THAT WAS JUST FROM BUILDING A WEBSITE AND GETTING THAT OUT THERE. SO PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING SANDY SPRINGS. I THINK BUSINESSES ARE, FOUNDATIONS ARE, AND WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT SUPPORT. SO WITH THAT, ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. I'LL SAY THIS. FOR 20 YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE MAJOR MARQUEE BUSINESSES ENGAGED IN THE CITY. AND YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE IT. SO THANK YOU I
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APPRECIATE THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FOUNDATION AND THE EVENTS COMING UP, MR. PAULSON? THANK YOU. HANG ON. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS COMPANY THAT CONTACTED YOU ABOUT SPONSORING THE GREEN EVENTS FOR THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS TOO LATE. DID YOU WRITE THEIR NAME DOWN SO YOU CAN TALK TO THEM? WE GOT IT. WE'VE GOT IT NOTED. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD NOTES RIGHT NOW. JUST CHECKING. YEP. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT, DOCTOR KELLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ALL HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THANK YOU.YOU YOU MENTIONED ONE OF YOUR EARLIER EXERCISES BEING THE VETERANS PARK AND THE THE ART ASSOCIATED WITH IT. I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE USED THE FOUNDATION'S INFRASTRUCTURE AT LEAST TO SOLICIT DONATIONS FOR THE JUNETEENTH EVENT. THANK YOU.
AND LAST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY HAD HOPED TO ENGAGE THE BOARD TO TO ACTUALLY HELP US WITH THE EVENT, SINCE WE'RE BUILDING IT SORT OF FROM THE GROUND UP. AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, NOW THAT YOU ALL ARE FORMING AND APPEAR TO BE SUCCESSFULLY FORMING, IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT TYPE OF HELP OR SUPPORT OR PARTNERSHIP CAN BE HAD FOR NOT JUST THAT EVENT, BUT ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR SIGNATURE EVENTS FROM THAT LIST THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AN EYE ON GOING INTO, LET'S SAY, 2026? CANDIDLY, NOT YET, BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING THROUGH THIS EVENT, BECAUSE THIS WAS OUR LAUNCH.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOW IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT EVENTS LIKE JUNETEENTH AND TO PROVIDE PLATFORMS WHERE DONORS CAN COME DIRECTLY TO SAY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A FRONT LOADING. I KNOW ON THE BACK END WE WERE SUPPORTIVE IN THAT WAY, BUT ABLE TO MARKET THAT, TO COME UP WITH WAYS, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS ARE EXACTLY, TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT SPONSORSHIP PACKAGES, I THINK TOO. SO WE'RE WE'RE PREPARED TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET THROUGH OUR ITERATION, THIS ITERATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. OH, AND I JUST WANT TO TELL Y'ALL SO SO YOU DID A YOU DID YOU DID A PHENOMENAL JOB ON JUNETEENTH. IT WAS A FABULOUS EVENT. AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE WE COULDN'T HELP MORE. BUT WE DO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. NOW. IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE ALL THOSE SIGNATURE EVENTS ON THE WEBSITE. WE BUILT CAMPAIGN PAGES FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT IS TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, LEADERS OF THOSE SIGNATURE EVENTS TO COME UP WITH THOSE SPONSOR PACKAGES. AND WE WILL SELL WITH YOU. WE'LL GO OUT THERE AND CONTACT THOSE COMPANIES. WE'LL HELP WITH ALL THE PAPERWORK WE CAN DO, AND ALL OF IT CAN BE DONE ONLINE NOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A HUGE HELP. BUT WHEN YOU CAME TO US, WE WERE A BIT, A BIT DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS. YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THERE. YEAH, YEAH. AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN WAITING ON Y'ALL TOO YOU KNOW. SO YEAH LET'S, LET'S GET TOGETHER AFTER, AFTER YOUR NEXT EXERCISE. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BAUMANN? THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU CHRISTINE. THANK YOU. SHERWIN I SEE YOU OVER THERE. I'VE GOT TICKETS FOR THURSDAY NIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT NIGHT. SO JUGGLING THINGS. CAN YOU AND MAYBE DAN CAN DISCUSS SORT OF.
WHAT IS THE LEGAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FOUNDATION, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO DO GREAT WORK AND THE CITY. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS BEING IS IT IS IT DOES IT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS? WHAT IS THE I MEAN, SO WHO'S MAKING THE DECISIONS ON HOW TO ALLOCATE MONEY? SO CAN SOMEBODY ADDRESS SORT OF THE LEGAL RELATIONSHIP? I HEARD THAT THE MAYOR WAS ON THE BOARD. IS THAT THE MAYOR POSITION BY CHARTER, OR IS IT BY JUST THE PERSON CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE MAYOR'S SEAT? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP US OR.
WELL, FIRST I WOULD TELL YOU THE VICE CHAIR IS A BETTER LAWYER THAN I AM. THE RELATIONSHIP IS NOT NOT NECESSARILY A LEGAL ONE. THIS FOUNDATION IS HAS ITS OWN AUTONOMY AND ITS ITS PURPOSE, AS STATED IN ITS BYLAWS AND CHARTER, IS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE SPEAKERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE A PARTNERSHIP, INFORMAL AND NOT STATUTORY, BETWEEN THE CITY FOR THE PURPOSES THEY'VE OUTLINED. IT'S ALL VOLUNTARY, RIGHT. BUT SO BUT THERE THE CITY I ASSUME, IS STILL MAKING DECISIONS ON THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS A CITY. CORRECT. AND WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME SAY ON HOW I MEAN, ALL OF THE RESOURCES WILL HELP TO REDUCE BASICALLY WHAT THE CITY'S $995,000 NUT IS ON THE EVENTS, OR IS IT TO ADD TO THE EVENTS? IS IT TO IS THE PURPOSE TO REDUCE THE CITY'S COST OR TO
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BE ACCRETIVE TO WHAT THE CITY IS DOING? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, SCHOLARSHIPS FOR YOUTH OR FOR PROGRAMING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AS A POLICY MAKER, IT HAS BEEN MY BELIEF, AND I THINK SHARED BY COLLEAGUES, THAT WE DO NOT WANT FOLKS THAT CAN'T PARTICIPATE, BUT FOR THE COST TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE EQUATION, FOR EXAMPLE, AT SANDY SPRINGS YOUTH SPORTS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ALL OR NOTHING. HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. SO I COULD SEE A SITUATION WHERE LIKE AS A CONTRIBUTOR, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT MY DOLLARS ARE GOING TO THE BEST USE. IS IT IS IT REALLY JUST TO REDUCE? IS THIS JUST SORT OF A VEHICLE TO REDUCE THE CITY'S NUT ON THESE PROGRAMS, OR IS IT TO BE ACCRETIVE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING? LET ME MENTION ONE THING QUICKLY. FIRST OFF, THERE IS NO OWNERSHIP OF THE CITY IN THIS FOUNDATION. THE FOUNDATION HAS ITS OWN AUTONOMY. AND SO ITS BYLAWS, ITS CHARTER, ITS MEETING, ITS THE VOTES OF ITS BOARD DECIDE WHERE THEY RAISE MONEY, WHERE THEY SPEND MONEY.AND IT IT HOPEFULLY IS BUILT UPON A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY TO HELP GIVE INPUT TO WHAT SHOWS GO ON, HOW THEY'RE FUNDED. AND AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS HAMSTRUNG GREATLY BY NOT BEING ABLE TO DONATE MONEY, DONATE FUNDS UNDER THE GRATUITIES CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION. AND THIS FOUNDATION'S ONE OF ITS SOLE PURPOSES IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH CONTRIBUTED MONEY AND NOT TAXPAYER MONEY. BUT DIDN'T WE RUN INTO A SITUATION WITH WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE SANDY SPRINGS ARTS FOUNDATION, WHERE THEY WERE OSTENSIBLY SET UP FOR A SIMILAR REASON? BUT THEN THAT BOARD EVENTUALLY STARTED CONTRIBUTING TO PROGRAMS THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY CITY SPONSORED EVENTS. I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC. I'M JUST ASKING SOME QUESTIONS. SO LET ME LET ME JUST PERIOD. FULL STOP. FANTASTIC. ANYTHING TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, ANYTHING TO ENGAGE. THE CORPORATION'S WONDERFUL. IT'S AMAZING. AND TO UPLIFT JUNETEENTH. BUT I'M WONDERING WHERE ELSE THIS MAY GO AS AND I'M ASKING REALLY NOT AS BOTH AS A COUNCILMAN, AS A POTENTIAL CONTRIBUTOR. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO INITIALLY THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THESE SIGNATURE EVENTS BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING PRETTY CLEAR AND CONCRETE THAT WE COULD THAT WE COULD FOCUS ON. BUT ABSOLUTELY, 100% WE WANT TO DO THINGS THAT THAT DON'T EXIST. OKAY. SO A COUPLE EXAMPLES. IF WE CAN RAISE FUNDS TO DO MORE YOUTH PROGRAMS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND, AND BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, FUND AN ENTIRE SHOW FOR A MATINEE FOR CHILDREN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO THE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S HEART WOULD BE A YOUTH ORCHESTRA. OR MAYBE WE START WITH A YOUTH ORCHESTRA CAMP. ABSOLUTELY. WE WANT TO HELP CHILDREN GO TO CAMP WHO COULDN'T NORMALLY AFFORD TO GO TO CAMP. AND THEN AS WE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A YEAR.
BUT AS WE GET MORE INTO THIS AND WE ALL HAVE FANTASTIC IDEAS, BUT WE HAD TO FOCUS VERY QUICKLY ON WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IN, IN A RELATIVELY SHORT TIME. SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE EVENT IS ON THURSDAY. THAT'S TO GET OUR NAME OUT. THAT'S TO RAISE FUNDS TO GET US STARTED IN THAT DIRECTION. AND THEN I WOULD I WOULD THINK FROM A YEAR, IF WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THIS MUCH IN ONE YEAR, JUST IMAGINE WHERE WE'LL BE A YEAR FROM NOW. AND IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE A AUXILIARY BOARD THAT MIGHT BE SET UP FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING SPORTS AT A COLLEGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S A IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOOSE RELATIONSHIP, BUT IF AS AN INDEPENDENT BODY, I MEAN, YOU'RE PRESUMABLY YOUR DECISION MAKING ON THE OUTFLOW WILL BE YOUR DECISION, THE BOARD'S DECISION. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITY HAS TO GO THROUGH PROCESSES FOR HOW IT RECEIVES GRANTS AS WELL. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S GOOD COORDINATION HERE AS WELL. SHARON I'M SORRY, THERE'S SO SHERWIN CLEMENS. YES, MAYOR, TREASURER FOR THE BOARD. YOU'RE I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
IT'S LIKE, WHERE ARE THE DOLLARS REALLY GOING? HOW MUCH IS THE CITY CONTROLLING WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE GOING? IT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION. THIS IS REALLY FOR THOSE EVENTS THAT WE'VE SET UP THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE. AND WHEN DONORS GO TO OUR PAGE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECT EXACTLY WHERE THEY WANT THOSE FUNDS TO GO. SO LIKE ANY 500 1C3 WITH HAVING TO ANSWER TO OUR DONORS AND AUDITORS, THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING TRACKED. AND IF YOU SAY, I WANT TO SUPPORT SCHOLARSHIP TO A REC CENTER FOR KIDS WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO THEN BE ABLE TO GO AND TRACK THAT. NOW THERE IS A LOOSE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE CITY, BECAUSE WE ARE SERVING THE CITY AND ITS PROJECTS AND BY BY LAW,
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THE MAYOR, NOT RUSTY PAUL, BUT THE MAYOR HAS A SEAT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS IT IS CURRENTLY SET UP. WELL, I JUST ASK THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT AS A NOW PURELY PUTTING IN MY DONOR HAT. OKAY. THE QUESTION I WILL HAVE IS ARE THESE DOLLARS GOING TO BASICALLY ARE THEY DESIGNED TO REDUCE WHAT THE CITY'S BUDGET IS, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ACCRETIVE? BECAUSE I'M NOT I GIVE MY I PAY MY TAXES. I DO KNOW WITH THE FOUNDATION, I FEEL LIKE WITH THE POLICE FOUNDATION, IT'S A FAIRLY CLEAR STRAIGHT LINE BETWEEN THE DOLLARS THAT WE CONTRIBUTE AND THE EXTRA THINGS THAT ARE BEING DOING. I DON'T I MEAN, YOU COULD ARGUE POTENTIALLY, THAT THERE'LL BE SOME OFFSET TO THE CITY'S GENERAL BUDGET, BUT I MEAN, CLEARLY THIS TRAINING FACILITY IS NOT WITHIN OUR MEANS. SO THAT IS A VALUE ADD PLUS UP. ALSO IT'S DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR TAX. THIS IS A 500 1C3 DEDUCTION. I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DEMONSTRATE THROUGH THIS FOUNDATION WHERE THESE DOLLARS AREN'T JUST A WAY TO DROP THE CITY'S OBLIGATION ON ITS THINGS. AND MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH BECAUSE AS A CITY WE WANT TO DO THINGS, BUT SOMETIMES OUR WANTS ARE OUTWEIGHED BY OUR NEEDS, AND IT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC. AND WE'VE WE'VE DECIDED AS A MATTER OF POLICY TO DO THIS $995,000. BUT FRANKLY, WE KNOW IN PARKS AND REC OUR DEMAND WAY OUTWEIGHS OUR SUPPLY RIGHT NOW. AND WE KNOW THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL ARTS PROGRAMING. AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE ACCRETIVE TO THAT, BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING AS A POLICY MAKER RIGHT NOW TO JUST SAY, WELL, GO OUT AND RAISE THE MONEY SO WE CAN DROP, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT COMMITMENT LEVELS. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY LOOKING TO DO. SO BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU. AND I MADE SOME CONFUSION. SUZANNE, YOU'RE OVER THERE. CHRISTINE, YOU'RE OVER HERE, I APOLOGIZE, OKAY? WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME. NO, NO, I SHOULD KNOW BETTER. YEAH, BUT THE YOU KNOW, THE GOAL, AS WAS STATED EARLIER, IS TO KIND OF CONTINUE THE TRADITION OF SANDY SPRINGS WITH HAVING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET RID OF ANY PROGRAM. WE WANT THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY WHAT WE'VE CREATED HERE AND TO SEE THAT GROW INTO THE FUTURE, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE. I WOULD LIKE FOR MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO GO TO OTHER THINGS IN MY COMMUNITY AND GIVE OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, SMALL AND LARGE, AND OTHERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE FOUNDATIONS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP SUPPORT THESE EVENTS THAT THEY AND THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WHO COME INTO SANDY SPRINGS BENEFIT FROM. I KNOW FROM THE EVENTS I GO TO, IT'S NOT JUST SANDY SPRINGS RESIDENTS WHO ARE THERE, BUT BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE ALSO BENEFITING FROM IT, AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR THEM NOT TO SEE THIS EXISTING AUDIENCE AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET THEIR NAME OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THEIR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. ROCHELLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EVENT ON THURSDAY NIGHT. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. IS THERE A BUDGET THAT WE CAN SEE? IS IT ON YOUR WEBSITE? AND ALSO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO DO A PROJECT IN SANDY SPRINGS THAT'S NOT PART OF THE CITY. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO A CAMP FOR KIDS, DO THEY APPLY? CAN THEY APPLY TO YOU? OR IS THIS ALL FOR THE CITY EVENTS? SO WE ARE SO NEW. YOU'RE WHAT? WE ARE SO NEW TO THIS, AND WE HAVE HAD A FEW EVENTS THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONES THAT ELIZABETH MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS SOUGHT OUT. HOW CAN WE BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT? IS THAT WITHIN OUR IS THAT WITHIN OUR PARKS AND REC THOUGH, OR THAT'S NOT OUTSIDE OF OUR PARKS AND REC, BUT IT WASN'T A SIGNATURE EVENT THAT WE WERE NECESSARILY LOOKING AT WHEN WE FIRST CAME ABOARD FOR THIS. AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE WHOLE HISTORY BEHIND IT. BUT YEAH, WE'RE WILLING TO TALK TO OTHER PARTNERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE A RESOURCE WITH OUR STRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE NOW IN TERMS OF A BUDGET. WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. WE CAN HAND TO YOU TODAY. WE ARE VERY, VERY NEW. AND STEPPING IN. WE CAME IN WITH WHAT WE WERE GIVEN IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET THAT WAS SET BEFORE, BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE A PART OF AS WE BUILD OUT OUR BOARD. WE'RE VERY SMALL BOARD. I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS RIGHT NOW, AND AS WE BUILD OUT OUR BUILD OUT OUR BOARD AND MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ON. WE'VE JUST WE'VE BEEN FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET CHECKS OUT THE DOOR AND HOW TO TAKE PAYMENTS AND HOW TO MAKE PAYMENTS, SO FORTH.[00:40:03]
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT. SO EVENTUALLY YOU'LL HAVE IT ON YOUR WEBSITE. YEAH. YEAH. AND AND YOU CAN STILL YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NINE 90S FOR THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE IT IS A 500 1C3 PUBLIC NONPROFIT. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT INFORMATION. IT IS PUBLIC. SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO ALL OF THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING RAISING WILL GO TOWARDS FUNDING SOME ONE OF THE SIGNATURE EVENTS. NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THE SIGNATURE EVENTS. NO. WE'RE RAISING MONEY FOR THE RECREATION AND PARKS AND ADAPTIVE REC AS WELL. ADAPTIVE REC. SO IT'S NOT. SO TO ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, IF SOMEBODY CAME UP AND THEY SAID, WE WE WANT TO CREATE A NEW SPORTS PROGRAM OR WE WANT TO PUT ON A SHOW OR WE WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF ACTIVITY, AND WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION, AND IT BENEFITS CITIZENS OF SANDY SPRINGS. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DEKALB OR BROOKHAVEN, BUT SANDY SPRINGS, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND AND WE ARE HOPING TO GROW AND BUILD ON AGAIN TO BE ADDITIVE AND DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A YES OR NO? DO YOU HAVE A VOTE WITHIN YOUR BOARD? WE'RE WE'RE BOARD. SO WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A QUORUM. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THESE DECISIONS. DO WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO VET THOSE AT THIS POINT? NO. SO OUR FIRST PRIORITY RIGHT NOW IS TO WORK TOWARDS THE SIGNATURE EVENTS AND TO SUPPORT ADAPTIVE RECREATION IN THE SUMMER CAMPS.IF WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IF I WERE TO LOOK INTO MY CRYSTAL BALL, I THINK OUR NEXT INITIATIVE WOULD BE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO BUILD OUT THE YOUTH ORCHESTRA, BECAUSE THAT IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS OF THE PARKS HEART. SO BEYOND THAT, ALL OF THESE ARE GREAT IDEAS AND ALL OF THESE ARE GREAT THINGS. THESE ARE THINGS WE ASPIRE TO DO, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THE TIME TO GET THERE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO RIGHT NOW, FIRST WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS. WE'RE WE'RE ALL LEARNING ABOUT ADAPTIVE RECREATION AND HOW WE CAN BE HELPFUL FOR THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE YOUTH ORCHESTRA IS PROBABLY OUR NEXT THING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD A LOT THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THESE PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE THESE ABILITIES, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A YOUTH ORCHESTRA WHERE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO.
AS LONG AS YOU'RE A SANDY SPRINGS RESIDENT, YOU CAN COME TOGETHER AND WE CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY OUR NEXT LINE. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU'VE DONE ALREADY. AND WHAT WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO. AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR PARTY ON THURSDAY NIGHT TO SEE ALL OF YOU ALL THURSDAY NIGHT. AND ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS NOT BOUGHT THEIR TICKETS YET, PLEASE BUY YOUR TICKET. WELL, THIS IS A KICK OFF TO OUR 20TH ANNIVERSARY, SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE AUTOMATED SPEED DETECTION DEVICES AND SCHOOL ZONES. LIEUTENANT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. LET ME GET THIS CLICKER. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE AUTOMATED SPEED DETECTION DEVICE. SO IN DECEMBER 2001, THE SCHOOL SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERA PROGRAM WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION WITH A POSSIBLE AGREEMENT WITH RED SPEED, LLC.
AND RED LLC. OR RED SPEED IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE CAMERAS THE INSTALLATION, MAINTAIN THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SPEED WARNING SIGNAGES. AND THEN THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW THE VIDEOS AND THE PHOTO OF EACH PRIOR TO ISSUING THE CITATIONS. THE REVENUE FOR THE RED SPEED FOR RED SPEED, GEORGIA RECEIVES 35% AND THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS RECEIVED 65%, AND THIS AGREEMENT EXPIRES ON JUNE 30TH OF 2026. THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT THEY WERE PUT, ONE WAS OFF OF NORTH SPRINGS HIGH SCHOOL OFF OF DALRYMPLE ROAD, AND THE OTHER ONE IS AT THE RIVERWOOD INTERNATIONAL CHARTER SCHOOL OFF OF HEARDS FERRY OF NOVEMBER 2023, THE COUNCIL APPROVED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE FULTON COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS, AND IN FEBRUARY 2025, THE EQUIPMENT WAS INSTALLED AND THE TRAFFIC UNIT STARTED REVIEWING THE CITATIONS WE GAVE, LIKE A 30 DAY PERIOD JUST AS A RED LIGHT, A RED LIGHT, NEW RED LIGHT, STOP SIGNS OR WHATEVER. ON MARCH OF 2025, THE CITATIONS STARTED BEING ENFORCED. ALTHOUGH THE SPEED LIMITS ARE ENFORCED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ALL OVER, JUST DURING THE SCHOOL FOR 24 HOURS, THE SCHOOL ZONE IS ONLY OPERATED WITHIN
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THE SCHOOL PERIOD, ONE HOUR BEFORE AND ONE AFTER, AFTER AND DURING THE SCHOOL PERIOD. SO BETWEEN 820 AND 320, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 35 MILES AN HOUR, ENFORCED WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON BETWEEN 720 AND 8:20 A.M. THE SPEED LIMIT IS DROPPED TO 25MPH, AND THEN AT 330 TO 430, IT'S DROPPED BACK DOWN TO 25 MILES AN HOUR. THE SPEED LIMIT IN ANY SCHOOL ZONE WITH OFFICERS CAN GO OUT. WE CAN ENFORCE IT WITH ONE OVER. BUT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ERROR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE GAVE A BUFFER OF TEN MILES AN HOUR. SO ANYTHING 11 AND OVER THE CITATION IS BEING ISSUED. SO IN A 25 MILES AN HOUR ZONE, A 26 MILE AN HOUR OR ABOVE WOULD RECEIVE THE CITATION, THE SAME THING AS IN THE 35 MILE AN HOUR ZONE, A 46 MILE AN HOUR.ANYTHING OVER 40, 46 AND ABOVE WOULD BE ISSUED A CITATION AND THE BUFFER WAS ESTABLISHED.
ESTABLISH ANY BUFFER FOR ANY DISCREPANCIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. CONFIRMING CITATIONS. THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER MUST INSPECT IT, SO WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WILL OPEN UP THE READ SPEED DAILY, AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY CITATION. THEY MAKE SURE ONE THAT IT IS WITHIN THE TIME FRAME. SO BEFORE WE GET IT READ SPEED GOES THROUGH IT AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO ERRORS, WHETHER IT'S A WEEKEND OR BEFORE SCHOOL HOURS OR AFTER SCHOOL HOURS. AND THEN THE OFFICER WILL THEN LOOK AT THE CITATION. EACH AND EVERY ONE.
THERE'S A VIDEO THAT HE'LL WATCH. HE MAKES SURE THAT ONE, THAT IT IS THE VEHICLE. THAT IS, IF THERE'S MORE THAN 1 OR 2, IT'S LIKE 2 OR 3 VEHICLES. IF THERE'S ANY DOUBT, HE DISMISSES THE CITATION. THE REVENUE. SO THE FIRST OFFENSE IS $75. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A $5 COURT FEE. AND THEN THE SECOND OFFENSE IS $125 WITH A $5 COURT FEE. THIS DOES NOT GO ON ANYONE'S DRIVING RECORD. IT'S MERELY A CIVIL CITATION THAT'S BROUGHT TO THEM. AND ONLY THE FUND CAN THE ONLY THE FUNDS CAN GO TO THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OR PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVES.
SO ANY UNPAID OR UNCONTESTED CITATIONS, SO THEY GET A FIRST NOTICE AND THEY GIVE INSTRUCTIONS OF HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITATION. THEY CAN EITHER PAY IT, THEY CAN SET UP A COURT DATE. DISPUTE IT. IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THERE'S A SECOND ONE THAT IS SENT WITH A NEW DATE OF RETURN. THE RIGHT OF THE TO CONTEST THE VIOLATION IS WAIVED IF A SECOND NOTICE IS UNPAID AND A FINAL NOTICE IS SENT, THEN IT IS SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, AND THEN THE PERSON THAT GOT THE CITATION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RENEW THEIR TAG UNTIL THE CITATION IS PAID FOR. SO THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE THERE. THE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE SIGNS BE AT LEAST 20 BY 30IN IN AREA, AND SHALL WARN THE APPROACHING MOTORIST THAT THE SPEED DETECTION DEVICES ARE BEING EMPLOYED. THE SIGNS MUST BE PLACED WITHIN 500FT PRIOR TO THE WARNING SIGN ANNOUNCING THE REDUCTION OF SPEED LIMIT OF THE SCHOOL ZONE, AND IT'S GOT TO BE VISIBLE FROM EVERY LANE. SO IF YOU LOOK ON ROSWELL ROAD, WE DON'T DO IT ON ROSWELL ROAD, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SIGNAGE ALL THE WAY ACROSS KEEPING THEM.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN THE NUMBER ONE LANE CLOSEST TO THE CENTER AND THE CARS BESIDE YOU, THEN IT WOULD YOU IT COULD OBSTRUCT THEIR VIEW AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGNAGE IN.
ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE BY THE CITY DEFINES. THERE WAS ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE CITY THAT DEFINED TIMES AND SPEED LIMITS. AND HERE'S THE SIGNAGE. I KNOW THEY THEY'VE GOT THEM OUT AT THE NEW LOCATIONS. AND I SAW THE ONE ON DALRYMPLE AND IT SHOWS THEM BETWEEN 720 AND 820. THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25 820 TO 330, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 35, AND FROM 330 TO 430 THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25. AND THERE'S ALSO A PHOTO ENFORCE SIGN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IT IS PHOTO ENFORCED. HOW TO CONTEST A VIOLATION. YOU CAN EITHER TESTIFY UNDER OATH IN OPEN COURT, OR YOU CAN SUBMIT A SWORN AFFIDAVIT OR NOTARIZED STATEMENT STATING THAT YOU WERE NOT THE OPERATOR OF THE VEHICLE. COME IN AND SAY I WASN'T DRIVING IT. A MECHANIC, WHOEVER WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE, IT WAS NOT ME. OR YOU CAN PRESENT A CERTIFIED COPY OF A POLICE REPORT SHOWING THAT THE VEHICLE WAS EITHER STOLEN OR WAS NO LONGER IN YOUR POSSESSION. ADDITIONAL OPTION IS REQUEST. A COURT HEARING MUST BE RECEIVED ON OR BEFORE THE PAYMENT OR CONTEST MUST BE RECEIVED BY DATE LISTED ON THE BACK OF THE NOTICE AND THE NOTIFICATION BY MAIL OF ASSIGNED HEARING DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION. THE. YOU CAN SCHEDULE A COURT HEARING BY PHONE BY CALLING THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS SCHOOL ZONE
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SAFETY PROGRAM CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY CAN HELP YOU WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO THIS IS THE CITATIONS THAT WE'VE GOT SINCE APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER. SO AT RIVERWOOD THERE WAS 17 CITATIONS. IN APRIL WE HAD A FLASHING LIGHT OUT AND IT WAS ALSO STARTED IN THE LATER. SO IF HE WAS GOING WESTBOUND ON HEARDS FERRY, THEN WE WASN'T DOING THE 25. WE WAITED TILL WE GOT THE LINES LIGHTS GOING. AND THEN IN MAY THERE WAS 125. IN JUNE AND JULY THERE WAS NO CITATIONS. THERE WAS NO SCHOOL IN AUGUST WHEN SCHOOL STARTED BACK, THERE WAS 511. IN SEPTEMBER THERE WAS 543 AND THEN 1108 TOTAL FOR RIVERWOOD. AT NORTH SPRINGS IT WAS 321 IN APRIL 3RD 621 IN MAY, 710 IN AUGUST, 357 IN SEPTEMBER, FOR A TOTAL OF 2009. AS YOU CAN SEE IN JUNE AND JULY, THERE WAS NO CITATIONS ISSUED BECAUSE SCHOOL WAS NOT IN SESSION. IT SHOWS THE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSED FOR APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER AND THE TOTAL THAT HAVE BEEN PAID FOR THE RIVERWOOD. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NUMBERS IN JUNE AND JULY. IT'S JUST WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE PAYMENT. SO IF THEY'VE GOT ONE IN MAY, THEY MAY HAVE SUBMITTED THE PAYMENT IN JUNE AND SOME MAY HAVE SUBMITTED IT IN JULY. THE SAME THING FOR NORTH SPRINGS HIGH SCHOOL. THERE'S APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER, AND THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF 1244 CITATIONS ISSUED. SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN APRIL, YOU'VE GOT APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. FOR RIVERWOOD, THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF $40,900 COLLECTED. AND THEN FOR NORTH SPRINGS HIGH SCHOOL ON HEARDS FERRY, THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL OF $101,670 IN CITATIONS THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED ON DALRYMPLE. I'M SORRY, DALRYMPLE FOR NORTH SPRINGS. YES. ON DALRYMPLE. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN THEY STARTED THE RESEARCH INTO THIS, THEY STARTED LOOKING AT ACCIDENT MATRIX. AND SO IN 2022, THOSE SCHOOL ZONE AREAS ON DALRYMPLE AND RIGHT THERE AT RIVER RIVERWOOD AND 2022, THERE WAS TWO VEHICLE ACCIDENTS. WE'RE NOT COUNTING PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE SCHOOLS, I'M SURE THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEM. BUT THE ONES THAT WERE ON THE ROAD IN 2023, THERE WERE SEVEN AND 2024 THERE WAS FIVE. AND THEN FROM JANUARY TO MARCH 26TH, BEFORE WE STARTED THIS, THERE WAS THREE FROM MARCH 20TH OR MARCH 20TH 7TH TO SEPTEMBER 27TH. WE'VE HAD ONE CRASH SINCE IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THERE'S BEEN NO PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS THAT'S BEEN REPORTED BETWEEN 2022 AND 2025. THAT'S BEEN ON THE ROADWAYS. SO THERE'S TWO PROPOSED BILLS. HOUSE BILL 225. THE BILL AIMS TO BAN THE USE OF AUTOMATED SPEED CAMERAS IN SCHOOLS ON STATEWIDE. IT WILL PROHIBIT THE CITY FROM ENTERING INTO OR RENEWING A CONTRACT RELATIVE TO THE SPEED VIOLATIONS IN THE SCHOOL ZONES THROUGH THE USE OF AUTOMATED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT SAFETY DEVICES. THE GEORGIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED HOUSE BILL 225 ON MARCH 4TH, 2025, WITH A VOTE OF 129 TO 37, AND NOW THE BILL IS NOW UNDER CONSIDERATION WITH THE GEORGIA SENATE AND UNDER THE HOUSE BILL 651. THIS BILL PROPOSES REFORMS TO THE EXISTING REGULATIONS GOVERNING SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS AND SEEKING TO LIMIT THE OPERATIONAL HOURS OF THESE CAMERAS TO PERIODS WHEN SCHOOL ZONES, SPEED LIGHTS OR LIMITS ARE IN EFFECT, SPECIFICALLY DURING THE MORNING DROP OFF IN THE AFTERNOON PICKUP TIMES. IT ALSO MANDATES THE FLASHING LIGHTS BE ACTIVE WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE OPERATING, AND REQUIRES THE INSTALLATION OF SIGNS DISPLAYING MOTORISTS SPEED PRIOR TO ENTERING THE SCHOOL ZONES. THEY'LL ALSO BE LIMITATIONS ON FEES ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH CITATIONS, AND WILL NOT ALLOW THE CITY TO SEND UNPAID SCHOOLS ON TICKETS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.HOUSE BILL 651 PASSED THE GEORGIA HOUSE WITH 164 VOTES TO EIGHT AND IS NOW UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THE GEORGIA SENATE. SO WE CAN LOOK AT CONTINUING THE PROGRAM, AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE HIGHLIGHTING THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT TIMES AND SPEEDS WHICH WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE LIEUTENANT. ANY QUESTIONS? MISS ROCHELLE? I HAVE A FEW. SO READ READ SPEED MADE. IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $49,700 IN PROFIT. I GOT TO GO BACK TO LOOK HERE BECAUSE I MADE 35% CORRECT. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR OKAY, SO FROM OUR I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO ONE HAVE WE DO WE LOOK AT
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NONRESIDENTS AND RESIDENTS AS FAR AS WHO'S GETTING THE TICKETS. AND IT LOOKED LIKE FROM THE NUMBERS THAT WE GAVE OUT 108 TICKETS AND THERE WAS 497 THAT ACTUALLY PASSED TO GO ON TO GET TO GET PAID FOR RIGHT TO. SO THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE FROM THE POLICE OFFICER'S TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL 108 TICKETS, AND THEN ONLY 497 OF THEM GET PROCESSED. IS THAT CORRECT? AM I SEEING AM I READING THAT CORRECT? SO AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS, WE DON'T WE DON'T DO THAT. THE SAME THING AS IF WE WERE RUNNING A LASER OR RADAR OUT THERE. WHOEVER THE VIOLATOR IS, THAT'S WHO GETS THE CITATION, WHETHER YOU LIVE THERE OR NOT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S 497 PAID, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME THAT ARE IN SEPTEMBER THAT PROBABLY JUST HAS JUST GOTTEN THE CITATION. AND THEN THERE WAS A LOT THAT WAS ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING AT JUST WHAT I'D SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL IS 3117. AND OUT OF THOSE 1741 ACTUALLY GOT PROCESSED OR GOT, DID THEY JUST GET PAID OR ARE THOSE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY WENT, THOSE THAT GOT THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY MADE SURE THAT THE PERSON WAS DRIVING, THAT WAS DRIVING WAS THE CORRECT PERSON AND THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT CAR AND ALL THAT. IS THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO THE 1741 ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE PAID THE REST OF THE 3100 OR 3117. THE REMAINDER ARE EITHER ASKED FOR A COURT OR HAVE NOT RESPONDED AT ALL. I GUESS I WANT TO KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH TIME IS THIS TAKEN? OUR POLICE OFFICERS GO THROUGH? IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE 3117 TICKETS. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS. SO WOULD OH GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO WITH THE TWO CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE, THE OFFICERS PROBABLY SPEND ABOUT 12 HOURS A WEEK GOING THROUGH IT. SO TWO TWO HOURS, SOMETIMES THREE A DAY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY COME THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE 3100. IF YOU LOOK UP TOP, THERE WAS 2685 CITATIONS THAT HAD BEEN DENIED. AND THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DENIED IS IF THE SCHOOL ZONE, LIKE WITHIN THE CAMERA, WILL LOOK AT IT AND SAY, IT'S 824 OR 724, WE TRY TO GIVE A BREAK BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE LIKE ON RIVERWOOD OR NORTH SPRINGS, MAYBE AT THE GAS STATION BETWEEN THAT TIME, AND THEN THEY COME OUT AND GO RIGHT TO GO EAST ON DALRYMPLE. SO WE TRY TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME, A LOT THEM THE TIME. SO WE DON'T WE KIND OF GIVE IT FROM LIKE 830 TO ABOUT SEVEN, 730 TILL ABOUT 810 IN THE MORNING IS LIKE WHEN WE'RE REALLY ENFORCING ANY BEFORE THAT, ANY, ANY DOUBT, WE THROW IT OUT. AND THEN THE OTHER ONES OF THE 2685 THAT WERE THAT WE HAD DISMISSED IS IF THERE'S LIKE 2 OR 3 CARS THAT ARE ON THE VIDEO AND THE OFFICER LOOKS AT IT, HE'S LIKE, I KNOW IT SAYS THIS ONE, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE HE DISMISSES IT. SO, SO REALLY IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO 6000 THAT THEY VIEWED IN THAT. AND OF THE 6000, 2685 WAS ONES. THAT WAS IT TAKES 12 HOURS A WEEK. YOU SAID PROBABLY ABOUT 12 TO 13. THEY COME IN IN THE MORNING, THEY'LL SPEND A COUPLE HOURS DO IT AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON THEY'LL LOOK TO SEE IF SOME NEW ONES HAVE POPPED IN, AND THEN THEY'LL KNOCK IT THROUGH. AND HAVE WE LOOKED AT DOING CAN WE PUT SPEED CUSHIONS OUT THERE INSTEAD OF THESE CAMERAS ON THESE ROADS? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN TEN TICKETS AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF THE COMPANY IS MAKING A LOT OF PROFIT. WE'RE I'M I WANT OF COURSE, OUR KIDS TO BE SAFE. AND I WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GETTING THE TICKETS. IS IT THE STUDENTS GETTING THE TICKETS? IS IT THE PARENTS GETTING THE TICKETS? IS IT PEOPLE GOING THROUGH FROM COBB COUNTY? AND JUST HAVE WE THOUGHT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT PUTTING SPEED CUSHIONS OUT THERE INSTEAD OF THESE CAMERAS, GIVEN THE THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON THE ROADS THAT THESE ARE OWNED, IT WOULD REALLY NOT BE FEASIBLE TO PUT CUSHIONS OR SPEED HUMPS OUT THERE. AND ON TOP OF THAT, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHO IS BEING TICKETED, THE POLICE HAVE TO BE AGNOSTIC IN THAT WE CAN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHO IT IS WHEN WE ISSUE A TICKET, RIGHT? SO WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TONIGHT? WE'RE JUST TRYING TO THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION.INFORMATION. OKAY. AND THE PRIMARY QUESTION WAS DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM? WE HAVE INSTALLED THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED. CAROLINE, IF YOU CAN GO BACK OVER TO THAT, THE NEW SIGN IS, I BELIEVE THE SPEED, THE SIZE OF IT IS SIX FEET WIDE AND I CAN'T READ IT TWO FEET AND TWO FEET TALL. SO IT IS MUCH MORE VISIBLE THE TIMES OF DAY THAT IT IS BEING ENFORCED AND THE SPEEDS THAT ARE BEING ENFORCED AT IT ALSO DOES NOT
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SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT ISSUING THE TICKET UNTIL THEY ARE GOING 11 MILES OVER THAT. WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT WE DON'T? WE JUST POST THE ACTUAL SPEED LIMIT. AND. HOLD ON, MISS RACHEL, ARE YOU DONE? ALL RIGHT, MISS, MISS MUELLER AND THEN MR. DEGIULIO. EXCUSE ME, MISS MUELLER, AND THEN MR. DEGIULIO. MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. SO QUESTION I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SORT OF A TERMINATION IN THE CONTRACT IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD BE. THERE IS I BELIEVE IT'S A 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE. THE CONTRACT IS AUTOMATICALLY SCHEDULED TO TERMINATE AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, DECEMBER OF 2026. I WILL TRY TO PULL IT UP RIGHT HERE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT AT MY FINGERTIPS. SO GIVE ME JUST A YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY'RE. SOMETIMES CONTRACTS HAVE PENALTIES FOR 60 DAYS. DAN SAYS IT'S 60 DAYS. YEAH. AND THERE'S NO PENALTY. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. WE JUST HAVE TO ENFORCE IT FOR THAT 60 DAYS PERIOD AND THEN OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. MR. DEGIULIO, I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR YOU, RUSTY. DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? COULD YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE OR A FORWARD GO BACK AND GO FORWARD A COUPLE WHICH SLIDE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? I'M LOOKING FOR THE ONE ABOUT THE LEGISLATURE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONE. THE BILL AIMS TO BAN THE USE OF AUTOMATIC SPEED CAMERAS IN SCHOOL ZONES STATEWIDE. I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST INCORPORATED AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS, RUSTY, WE DID QUITE A BIT OF DEBATING ABOUT RED LIGHT CAMERAS, RED LIGHT CAMERAS AND RED LIGHT CAMERAS AT THE TIME WERE LEGAL, AND WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT AT THAT TIME. AND WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO, THEY DISAPPEARED COMPLETELY. RIGHT? I HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT THESE SCHOOL ZONES WHERE PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEM, AND IF AND IF THESE THINGS ARE CORRECT IN HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE I MEAN, A VOTE OF 129 TO 37 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S REAL CLOSE. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING, THERE ARE TWO BILLS THAT PASSED THE HOUSE, AND I THINK MR. LEE, BEING ALSO AN ALUMNUS OF THE INSTITUTION, WILL AGREE THAT YOU DON'T. THIS NEVER HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, AND SO THE HOUSE SENT TWO BILLS OVER ONE ONE BANS THEM, WHICH IS BY REPRESENTATIVE DALE WASHBURN.
THE OTHER 651 MODIFIES THE EXISTING PROGRAM TO REALLY ONLY ENFORCE IT DURING THE SCHOOL ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE TIMES, AND NOT DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL DAY LIKE THE CURRENT LAW DOES. SO THEY GOT TO THE SENATE, AND THE SENATE LOOKED AND SAID, WELL, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT US TO PASS? AND THEY GOT LESS THAN CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE HOUSE. SO THEY JUST SAT ON THEM. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU ARE WHERE THEY ARE. I MEAN, THERE WAS MORE SUPPORT FOR MODIFYING IT, AS YOU SEE, FROM 164 TO 8 VOTE THAN THERE WAS TO BAN THEM TOTALLY. I MEAN. THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT THE SANDY SPRINGS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T MAKE NEARLY AS MANY CHANGES IN THE LAW AS THE GEORGIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES. AND THERE'S THIS THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE ABOUT THIS. THEY ULTIMATELY BANNED THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THEM TODAY. THEY'VE COME BACK WITH SCHOOL ZONES. AND I THINK SCHOOL ZONES ARE SPECIAL OR A SPECIAL CASE. I MEAN, YOU GOT YOUR KIDS GOING THROUGH THERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY THEY'VE COME BACK WITH THIS AS OPPOSED TO THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE LAW ABOUT HOW THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT? YES. THAT'S DEFINED. I THINK THE LIEUTENANT OUTLINED HOW THE MONEY IS APPORTIONED. YEAH. IT WAS. WELL, THE CURRENT LAW IS THAT THE FUNDS ARE RECEIVED BY THE CITY, BUT IT'S 65, 35 UNDER THESE TWO BILLS THAT ARE PROPOSED, ONE DOES AWAY WITH AND THE OTHER ONE CHANGES THAT THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED FOR SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAMS. BUT BUT RIGHT NOW THE MONEY HAS GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER. FINE.
THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. MR. BOWMAN, THANK YOU. LIEUTENANT. FIRST, LET ME JUST ASK A FOUNDATIONAL QUESTION. ARE WE HOW ARE WE CALIBRATING THESE CAMERAS? BECAUSE THAT CONTINUES TO COME UP. RIGHT? SO EVERY MORNING WHEN IT COMES ON, IT CALIBRATES ITSELF AND IT RUNS OFF A CALIBRATION. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT RUNS ANOTHER CALIBRATION. SO I THINK WE'VE HAD MAYBE TEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTESTED THE CITATIONS. AND WHEN THEY COME, THE CALIBRATIONS ARE SHOWN THERE. AND WE HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THAT. WE HAVE. YEAH. HOW DOES THIS SO SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF SOMEBODY'S DOING 75 MILES AN HOUR AND THEY GET FLAGGED, IS THAT THE SAME PRICE AS SOMEBODY GOING 11 MILES OVER? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. COULD BE AN
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ISSUE. HOW DID THESE PRICES HOW DO THESE FEES COMPARE TO OUR REGULAR SPEEDING TICKETS. ARE THOSE ALSO ARE THOSE TIED TO THE AMOUNT OF SPEED OVER THE LIMIT? NO. THESE ARE PROBABLY AND I BELIEVE THAT MOST OF OUR SPEEDING TICKETS ARE ANYWHERE FROM 250 AND ABOVE. DEPENDS ON.SO THESE IT SOUNDS IT IS A LOT BUT IT'S LOWER THAN OUR CORRECT RECORDED SPEED TICKETS. I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO I'M, I MEAN I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THE SIGNAGE. THE THE WARNINGS ARE THERE NOW, ALTHOUGH I STILL WONDER I LOOK AT THOSE SIGNS. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE, THE WHITE WITH THE BLACK LETTERING JUST REALLY DOESN'T STAND OUT. LIKE THE GOLD SIGNS WITH THE BLACK IMAGES. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT IS THIS THE BEST WE'VE GOT? DO WE? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT EVEN BOLDER? I AM INTERESTED, I'LL STOP AND LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHAT LED YOU TO DECIDE TO DO WHITE WITH BLACK LETTERING? THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SIGNAGE IS ALSO NOT A DISTRACTION ON THE ROADWAY. BUT WE CAN I SEE I SEE BOTH, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS CLEARLY A CAUTIONARY SIGN. THE YELLOW I I'M GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE THE SUCCESS OF THIS. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR CALIBRATED EQUIPMENT FOR THE PERSON WHO HAS TEN TICKETS. I JUST DON'T HAVE A FOR THAT. WO SLOW DOWN AND WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN ALL ESPECIALLY NEAR OUR SCHOOL ZONES. THE CONCERN HERE WAS FAIR WARNING DUE PROCESS ACCURACY OF THE OF THIS EQUIPMENT. I DO LOOK AT THE SIGN AND I SAY WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, THAT'S NOT WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME, BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING. THERE WAS A SMALL REDUCTION OF OF CITATIONS ISSUED. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE WILD CARD OF THE REJECTED ONES. SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE BASIS OF THIS, BUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO DO AN APPLES TO APPLES, WE DO WANT TO I MEAN, OCTOBER, WE HOPEFULLY THIS IS STARTING TO COME DOWN. WE'LL START TO COME DOWN THESE NUMBERS WITH SIGNAGE. BUT THE VERY BEST WE'VE GOT WITH SIGNAGE AND WARNINGS UNTIL, I MEAN, THE LEGISLATURE MAY TAKE THIS OUT OF OUR HANDS SOON ANYWAY, BUT WE DO NEED PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN. AND I THINK OVER THE TIME IT'S CONDITIONING, LIKE PEOPLE LIKE NEW SCHOOL.
WHEN SCHOOL STARTS BACK, IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S CONDITIONING, GETTING PEOPLE AWARE WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE HOME. WHEN I DRIVE HOME, I KNOW I HAVE THEM WHERE I DRIVE HOME AND I'M LIKE, OH, I KNOW THERE'S ONE THERE. AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE TIME. ONE MORE QUESTION.
ALL RIGHT, MISS ROCHELLE, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. WE CAN'T UNTIL THE LEGISLATURE DECIDES WE CAN'T SAY, OKAY, WE CAN KEEP THE CAMERAS ON JUST DURING THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL AND THE END OF SCHOOL. RIGHT. IT HAS TO BE ON THE WHOLE DAY. SO I HAVE SPOKEN WITH RED SPEED AND THEY THERE IS A WAY. SO I THINK WE ACTUALLY SPOKE TO I BELIEVE ROSWELL AND ALPHARETTA AS WELL. AND I THINK ALPHARETTA IS TRYING IT NOW WITH JUST THE FLASHING LIGHTS. AND ROSWELL RAISED THEIR SPEED LIMIT TO LIKE 15 OVER, BUT I'M NOT SURE WITH RED SPEED, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD. OKAY, WELL, I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
LIKE LIKE THE HOURS AND RAISING THE SPEED LIMIT. SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT. THANK YOU.
DOCTOR KELLY. I AGREE THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY MODIFY. WE WE HAVE WE POSSIBLY HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THE THE TIMING, THE ENFORCEMENT, THE TIMING IN WHICH ENFORCEMENT OCCURS. ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT CONTROL. WE HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THE FEE SCHEDULE. THE 75 125 AS A CITY. THAT'S THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT IT IS. IT IS SET FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN ADJUST THE FINE. OH, WE CAN'T ADJUST THE SIZE OF THE FUND.
THE PROCESS, INCLUDING THE SPEEDS. THE TIMING IS PART OF A CONTRACT BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS HERE. WE'RE WE'RE ENFORCING A SPEED LIMIT. AND WE'RE USING AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF DOING IT. AND WE'RE DOING THAT WITH A CONTRACT WITH THIS VENDOR. AND THAT CONTRACT SETS OUT THESE RULES THAT YOU ARE QUESTIONING RIGHT NOW. SO TO CHANGE THAT, THE VENDOR WOULD HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT, OR WE'D HAVE TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, SAYS THAT WE WILL OPERATE AT THE HOURS WE HAVE AN HOUR BEFORE ALL THE WAY THROUGH SCHOOL TO AN HOUR AFTERWARDS, AND THE SPEEDS ARE SET IN THE CONTRACT, THE AND THE PRICE IS SET IN THE. OKAY, BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION STATE LAW PROHIBITED US FROM LIMITING THE HOURS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT THE CASE? IT'S A CONTRACT. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY YOU CAN'T RAISE IT. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT BUT WE COULD LIMIT IT IF WE WANTED TO DO FLASHING LIGHTS. ONLY I DID NOT. THAT'S MY FIRST TIME HEARING THAT. AND GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE
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LEGISLATION, THE THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO BILLS IS THE FIRST ONE IS PROHIBITING CITIES FROM CONTRACTING WITH ENTITIES TO DO THIS FOR THEM. IT DOESN'T DO AWAY WITH SPEED CAMERAS. IT DOES AWAY WITH THE CITY'S ABILITY TO CONTRACT IT AWAY. OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT I JUST WANT TO SEE IF MY MATH IS CORRECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.CAN WE CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE WITH THE NUMBERS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE SAYING THE ONE THE 142,000 IS THE RESULT OF ABOUT 56% OF THE ISSUED CITATIONS BEING PAID. THAT'S CORRECT ABOUT OKAY. SO THERE'S STILL APPROXIMATELY PROPORTIONATELY $112,000 OUT THERE THAT HASN'T BEEN PAID. SO IF EVERYONE HAD PAID THEIR CITATIONS OVER THESE SIX MONTHS, APRIL TO SEPTEMBER, 5 OR 6 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SLICE IT, WE'D BE LOOKING AT AROUND $250,000 COLLECTED.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU, MR. PAULSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. I GUESS A COUPLE GOALS HERE COME BACK TO MY MIND AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS. I WOULD LIKE US TO NOT HAVE TO ISSUE ANY TICKETS, BUT THAT REQUIRES OUR DRIVERS TO DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT. SO LET'S GO BACK TO BASICS. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO GET THESE DRIVERS THAT ARE DRIVING BY THE SCHOOL TO TO NOT SPEED, AND YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM TEN MILES AN HOUR OVER, WHICH I ACTUALLY THINK IS QUITE FAIR. AND I'M GOING TO FINISH THIS COMMENT BY MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS VERY, VERY YOUNG, I GOT ONE OF THESE TICKETS BY A SCHOOL. AND TO THIS DAY WHEN I DRIVE BY THAT SCHOOL, I REMEMBER I GOT A TICKET THERE. AND SO I SLOW DOWN, SO I DON'T I ONLY GOT ONE. SO IT SEEMS TO ME HOW DO WE MODIFY BEHAVIOR. THIS IS ONE WAY TO DO IT. I GUESS ANOTHER WAY WOULD BE TO SET A POLICE CAR THERE WITH FLASHING LIGHTS. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY WE CAN DO THIS? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO GET THESE FINES DOWN TO ZERO SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T SPEEDING? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT'S $1 MILLION QUESTION I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU. WE JUST DO EDUCATION AND CONDENSE. AND YOU KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF CLASSES LIKE PARENT TEEN DRIVING. LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE TELL ABOUT THE PARENTS AND TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL ZONE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE DROPPING KIDS OFF AT THE BEGINNING AND PICKING THEM UP AT THE END.
THERE'S ALSO FIELD TRIPS THAT COME ON, THEY HAVE KIDS LIKE IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT LEAVE AT LUNCHTIME, THAT DO HALF DAYS, AND THEY WORK PART OF THEIR OTHER STUFF. AND WITH THIS HERE, WE'RE THIS ALLOWS US TO USE OUR OFFICERS. THIS IS A RESOURCE AND IT HELPS US PUT OUR OTHER OFFICERS IN OTHER LOCATIONS LIKE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND ROSWELL ROAD OR THE PARKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO BUT AS FAR AS GETTING PEOPLE TO STOP SPEEDING, I WISH I KNEW I'D BE A GAZILLIONAIRE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE MONEY. I'M INTERESTED IN REDUCING THE SPEEDING BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE SPEED THINGS, BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN. SO I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THIS. IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE OBVIOUS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET, IF THEY GO INTO THIS AREA, THEN I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS MORE OBVIOUS. I DON'T EVER WANT ANYBODY TO SAY I DIDN'T NOTICE THESE SIGNS. THAT'S WHY I WAS SPEEDING. AND IT SEEMS TO ME ANYBODY PAYING ANY ATTENTION WOULD NOTICE THESE SIGNS ALREADY. BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE THEM EVEN MORE OBVIOUS, I'D BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT COULD BE. WELL, THE LEGISLATURE, I'M SURE, ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME REFINEMENTS IN THIS BILL. IN THESE LAWS. ONE OF THESE BILLS WILL PASS PROBABLY IN A MODIFIED VERSION IN THE IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A MOVING TARGET. I WOULD JUST KIND OF COUNSEL LET'S WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES. IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING THEN WE'VE GOT SOME FLEXIBILITY TO TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS NOW, WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THEM AGAIN IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. AND THAT'S GOING TO ADD MORE CONFUSION TO THE DRIVERS OUT THERE BY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO A LITTLE STABILITY UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO. MIGHT BE THE BE THE BETTER APPROACH TO THIS, RATHER THAN TRYING TO CHANGE THEM NOW AND THEN CHANGING THEM AGAIN IN FEBRUARY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S WE'LL CLOSE THE WORK SESSION. I'M SORRY. WE
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GOT ONE MORE. I GOT TO TURN THE PAGE. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC WORKS. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T TURN THE PAGE. MARTY WAS SITTING THERE READY TO GO. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM WAS FIRST ADOPTED IN MARCH OF 2006. THE POLICY WAS SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED OR UPDATED OCTOBER 21ST, 2008. NOVEMBER 19TH, 2013 AND OCTOBER 30TH, 2020 WAS OUR MOST[01:15:06]
RECENT REVISION TO THE POLICY. YOU HEARD ALL OF THAT FROM KRISTIN WESTCOTT, OUR TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION UNIT MANAGER, IN HER PRESENTATION THAT SHE PROVIDED TO YOU ALL ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY ON JUNE 3RD OF THIS YEAR. ALONG WITH THAT PRESENTATION THAT KRISTIN PROVIDED TO YOU IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, SHE ALSO PROVIDED SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ON CONSIDERATIONS IN UPDATING THE TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO THIS EVENING IS BRING BACK TO YOU THOSE CONSIDERATIONS. FOR UPDATES TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO FIRST IS ASK KRISTIN IF SHE WOULD PLEASE TO GIVE YOU A RECAP OF THE PROGRAM. SINCE ITS MOST RECENT UPDATE IN 2020. AND AND WITH THAT, THEN I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN POTENTIALLY POLLING YOU ALL TONIGHT ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED VIA THAT JUNE PRESENTATION THAT KRISTIN PROVIDED IN THE INTEREST OF US THEN UPDATING THE POLICY PER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE THINGS, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE THAT WE MAY WANT TO MODIFY. ET-CETERA IN THE INTEREST OF UPDATING THE POLICY PER COUNCIL'S WISHES AND DESIRES THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK TO YOU IN A FUTURE MEETING. IF I WOULD ASK, AS KRISTIN GOES THROUGH A BRIEF RECAP OF THE PROGRAM AS PROVIDED IN JUNE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESERVE YOUR QUESTIONS TILL THE POLLING AT THE END. YES, SIR. SO WITH THAT, KRISTIN, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THIS MAP ACTUALLY JUST SHOWS WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TREATMENT TYPES. AND THEN WHERE WE HAVE SINCE 2020 CONDUCTED STUDIES AND WHAT THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES WERE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THAT STARTING BACK. THIS GOES BACK TO THE 2020. WE'VE WORKED WITH QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS WELL OVER 20. SHOWING, YOU KNOW, WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS QUALIFIED PER OUR CURRENT CRITERIA AND THEN WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED THREE TRAFFIC CALMING STUDIES THIS FALL FOR THREE ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. JUST WANTED TO PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND. WE DID WITH STAFF CONTACT AND LOOK AND INTERVIEW SOME OF OUR ADJACENT JURISDICTIONS ON WHAT THEIR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICIES LOOK LIKE. SO SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF SPEED CRITERIA ARE THEY USING TO DETERMINE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE? ALSO, WHAT KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD APPROVAL PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH, AS WELL AS HOW THEY PAY FOR THOSE DEVICES. THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT ONCE WE HAVE INSTALLED, NO MATTER WHAT THE DEVICE IS ACROSS THE CITY, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE. AND SO THERE IS A MAINTENANCE COST TO THAT. AND I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION OF PREVIOUSLY, HOW MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE YOU WORKED WITH WHERE THEY DID NOT IMPLEMENT TREATMENTS. AND SO THIS GIVES A SUMMARY OF THAT WITH THE FOOTNOTE THAT JET ROAD AND RIVERSHORE ESTATES WERE SUCCESSFUL IN IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDED TREATMENTS, BUT THEY DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THAT LARGELY WAS DUE TO COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD POLICIES IN THE CITY, INCLUDING THE STREETLIGHT PROGRAM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK PROGRAM.AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST SHOW YOU, AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPROVALS THAT WE USE FOR THOSE COMPARATIVE PROGRAMS, HOW MUCH THE CITY IS WILLING TO SHARE THOSE INITIATIVES, AND THEN WHAT OUR CURRENT AVAILABLE BUDGETS ARE IN FISCAL YEAR 26. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO RETURN TO MARTY. THANK YOU KRISTIN. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID. GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION THAT I BRING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, CLARIFY THE PROCESS FOR CONDUCTING A TRAFFIC STUDY. SO AS IT STANDS TODAY, A SINGLE RESIDENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN REQUEST A TRAFFIC STUDY. AND TO THAT END, WE PERFORM THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. SO IN THE INTEREST OF CLARIFYING AND REFINING POLICY, WE'D LIKE TO SUGGEST A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF AT LEAST TWO NON-RELATED RESIDENTS WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
REQUEST A TRAFFIC STUDY WHEN REQUESTED, OR WHERE THERE'S AN HOA THAT IS IN THE BUSINESS OF
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MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT THIS STUDY IS REQUESTED BY THE HOA. SO THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION ON THE TABLE. CAN WE AT LEAST ESTABLISH A THRESHOLD WE PROPOSE? IT'S UNCLEAR. IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THE POLICY RIGHT NOW THAT AT LEAST THERE ARE TWO IN A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTING A STUDY OR THE HOA. SO, MARTY, JUST TO HOW MUCH DOES A TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTING ONE COST. SO IS THERE A COST WITH THIS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS. EVEN IF IT'S JUST STAFF TIME, THERE'S THERE'S STAFF TIME. PLUS THERE'S THE TIME AND EFFORT. COUNCILWOMAN ASSOCIATED WITH TRAFFIC COUNTS, SPEED STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE COULD POTENTIALLY PERFORM IN-HOUSE. WE HAVE SOME GEAR FOR THAT. BUT EVEN THAT THEN INVITES FURTHER STAFF OR CONTRACTOR OR STREET CONTRACTORS TIME AND COMMITMENT TO PERFORM THOSE STUDIES, TO PERFORM THOSE TRAFFIC AND SPEED STUDIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT THERE'S NO BALLPARK NUMBER ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THIS LIKE $2,000 OR IS IT LIKE 25,000, I MEAN, I WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE STAFF TIME AND EFFORT THAT WE GO THROUGH IN TERMS OF THE STUDY UNDER, WE'VE HAD PROBABLY A STUDY AS AS MUCH AS $7,500 JUST TO COLLECT THE DATA ALONE WITHOUT ANY STAFF TIME. AND IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE STUDY AND THE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ANSWER. BUT GENERALLY, SOMEWHERE AROUND 2 TO $5000 JUST FOR THE DATA COLLECTION. AND THEN CONSIDER AS WELL IN THAT OTHER SERVICES DUTIES THAT WE MAY BE ASKING OUR STAFF, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO PERFORM THAT AREN'T BEING PERFORMED WHILE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE BEING CONDUCTED. SO WITH THAT, AND I WOULD COULD RECOMMEND IF YOU WOULD, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH ME POLLING YOU AS WE ADDRESS EACH OF THESE QUESTIONS? OR WOULD YOU RATHER IN AN END OF IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL.
ALL RIGHT WITH THAT ALL IN QUESTION BEFORE WE GO ON HERE. SO WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS IF THERE'S AN HOA, THE HOA FORMALLY HAS TO REQUEST THIS. IF THERE IS NO HOA, SOME AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE ON THIS STREET, AT LEAST TWO. OKAY. RELATED. UNRELATED AS IN NOT IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. SO IS THERE ANY LIKE IS IT A PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET? IS THAT ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THIS? WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. WE SUGGEST JUST A SIMPLE THRESHOLD OF AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE. OKAY. WELL I AGREE WITH MORE THAN ONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THERE ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THIS? BUT I AGREE, IF THERE'S AN HOA INVOLVED, THE HOA HAS TO REQUEST IT. AND IF YOU THINK TWO IS ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT REASONABLE, I GUESS THAT'S FINE. YES, SIR, MR. BOWMAN, HOW MANY HOW MANY TRAFFIC STUDIES DO WE DO A YEAR? 3 TO 5.
SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 3 TO 5. WE JUST, HOWEVER, JUST COMPLETED THE PAST MONTH, THREE STUDIES SO THAT NUMBER CAN RANGE. IT CAN GO UPWARDS OF 6 OR 7. WE'VE HAD ON THE SUMMARY IN THE FIRST THREE SLIDES. YEAH I CAN GO BACK TO THAT THAT WE HAD FROM 2020 ON PER YEAR. SO YOU'RE SAYING 6 TO 7 A YEAR. IN SOME YEARS. YEAH. TWO LAST YEAR TO THE YEAR BEFORE TWO. THERE WERE FIVE AND 2022 THREE AND 2021. AND I PUT A FEW IN 2020. SO DO YOU THINK THAT'S TOO MANY? I MEAN, YOU'RE PULLING US BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S TOO MANY. SO TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ONE INDIVIDUAL. CAN YOU GO TO THE MIC. YES, ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD CHRISTINE. SO WE HAVE FOUND THAT AND WE ALL LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS. CORRECT THAT. WE HAVE THAT ONE PERSON WHO'S UPSET WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TEEN DRIVER. AND SO THEY'RE ON BEHALF OF, SAY, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OF 500 HOMES DECIDING TO COMPLAIN TO THE CITY. AND THAT'S PROMPTING A TRAFFIC CALMING STUDY. AND WE ARE DOING THAT. BUT PERHAPS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT INCLUDES NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT FOR MOVING FORWARD, THAT OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN IT'S JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS ABOUT A PROBLEM, THAT IT'S UNLIKELY TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT STAGE OF ACTUALLY GETTING SUPPORT, RIGHT. IT COULD BE JUST THE ONE PERSON COMPLAINING THEY'VE NEVER TALKED TO ANYBODY. EVERYONE ELSE IS FINE. WE ARE GOING, DOES THAT HAPPEN? IF WE ONLY HAD THREE OR IF WE HAVE 3 TO 5 A YEAR? HOW DOES THAT IS THAT USUALLY THE PERSON? ONE OF THE THREE STUDIES THIS YEAR WAS THE CREST VALLEY DRIVE STUDY WAS INITIATED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL. MR. BOWMAN, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THIS, BUT WE'RE JUST
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SORT OF PICKING AT THE EDGES HERE. THE, THE THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION, POLICY QUESTION OF HOW FAR DO WE WANT TO GO TO REDUCE SPEEDING IN THIS CITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS? I THINK TO GO OFF WHAT THE CURRENT NUMBERS ARE IS A LITTLE SKEWED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF GROWN FRUSTRATED OR THEY JUST THINK IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S WHAT YOU SUGGEST, KRISTEN, BUT I SUSPECT THERE'S A LOT OF SPEEDING, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE MAYBE WE'RE HEARING FROM AN UNUSUALLY LARGE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND I'M HEARING ABOUT SPEEDING EVERYWHERE, AND THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION WITH HOW DO WE GET IT OFF OUR STREETS? AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED A POLICY OF ZERO FATALITIES.JOHN, WHEN 1940, I THINK WHATEVER, 20 WHATEVER 2040. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A FUNDAMENTAL POLICY DECISION AS TO WHETHER WE AS A CITY WANT TO REDUCE SPEEDING. I MEAN, WE JUST HAD THAT CONVERSATION. THE ANSWER SHOULD BE GENERALLY YES. IF IF THE RESULT OF THAT SPEEDING IS LEADING TO INJURIES AND CRASHES AND, AND FEAR IN NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE OLD POWERS FERRY ROAD AND WE HAD THIS ON GLEN ECHO WHERE THEY'RE AFRAID TO GO TO THEIR MAILBOX AND WE'RE SEEING FORGET VOLUMES OF 300, WE'RE SEEING VOLUMES OF 3000 ON STREETS THAT WERE BUILT AS COUNTRY ROADS ORIGINALLY. SO WE WERE GOING BACK AND RECONFIGURING ROADS THAT WERE BUILT FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PURPOSES ORIGINALLY, BUT THEN NOW ARE BEING USED FOR MODERN USES. I THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS, I GET IT, BUT I THINK IT'S PUTTING OFF. THE REAL DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IS WHEN IS THE CITY GOING TO INITIATE TRAFFIC CALMING AND WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE FACTORS. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN JUNE. WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE DATA POINTS AT WHICH YEAH, WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING AND WHETHER THE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING OR NOT.
IT'S OUR DUTY IN THE GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR CITY TO BE TRYING TO IMPROVE THESE CONDITIONS. I MEAN, WE DO A LOT OF WANTS IN THE CITY, BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE A NEED. AND I THINK UNTIL WE MODIFY THIS, I'M GOOD WITH DOING THIS. BUT WE NEED TO REALLY ASK WHAT ARE OUR POLICY OBJECTIVES AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BEST BE ABLE TO DO THAT? BECAUSE ONCE WE REMOVE ONCE WE MAKE IT EASIER AND WE START REMOVING OBSTACLES, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AS THEY SHOULD BE, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TRAFFIC HUMPS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE CHICANE. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO THESE THINGS. THEY DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC HUMPS. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE CHICANES THAT ARE IN MOUNT VERNON WOODS. RIGHT. YOU HAVE THOSE CHICANES AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT MANY ROUNDABOUTS. AND I SEE DOWN HERE YOU'RE PULLING THOSE OUT. ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OR NOT. ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO SLOW SPEEDING? ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, TO GENUINELY MEET THE PROMISE OF PROTECTED NEIGHBORHOODS? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. SO I'M OKAY WITH GOING ALL OF THIS.
I'M A YES, I'M A YES, I'M A YES, I'M A YES. BUT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SAY, WHAT IS OUR REAL GOAL HERE AND WHAT IS THE DATA. TELL US THAT WE CAN THAT WHAT ARE OUR ACTUAL CONDITIONS THEN EVENTUALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. AND I HAVE A PREDICTION.
WE'RE GOING TO SCORE THESE PROJECTS JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. IF YOU START DOING CHICANES, IF WE IF YOU BELIEVE, AS I DO, THAT THERE'S SPEEDING EVERYWHERE ACROSS THIS CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WANTING AND WE DECIDE TO PRIORITIZE IT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WE MAY NEED TO PUT IN A TSPLOST, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SCORE THESE PROJECTS LIKE WE SCORED PAVING INTERSECTIONS AND SIDEWALKS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO. BUT I'M A YES ON ALL OF THESE. I MEAN, YOU CAN UP IT IF ONE IS A REAL PROBLEM. I ASSUME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE THE ONE AND INITIATE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE INITIATING IT, WHERE PUBLIC WORKS IS SAYING, HEY, THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT, AND THEN TAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT AN OPTIONAL THING. MR. LEE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER. WHY ARE WE GIVING A VOTE TO NEIGHBORS ON SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DEEMING A SAFETY ISSUE? IS IT JUST ESTHETICS OR IS IT JUST A WANT, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT? WELL, IF WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT, WE NEED TO SAY THAT. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED. I AGREE WITH MR. LEE. I DON'T WANT TO MISCHARACTERIZE WHAT YOU SAID, DAN, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. WE DON'T WE SHOULDN'T BE VOTING ON THIS AND WE SHOULD BE AND WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. SO I'VE SAID MY PIECE THAT'S I THINK THIS IS A BIGGER POLICY ISSUE, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DEVOTE MORE TIME AND FUNDS TO IT. BUT I'M ALL FOR STARTING TO REMOVE OBSTACLES. AND I'D BET DOLLARS TO DONUTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE NEIGHBORHOODS INTERESTED WHEN WE DO THAT. AND THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, COUNCILMAN BOWMAN, IF I COULD ADD, IS THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE ON THE MATRIX. CAROLINE, IF YOU'LL GO FORWARD, HOW DOES COUNCIL WANT TO HANDLE THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA? THERE IS NO DOCUMENTED SPEEDING. IT'S A PERCEPTION ISSUE. AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE ALLOWING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA, MEANING THEY'D HAVE TO DO IT AT THEIR EXPENSE, BUT
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THE CITY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN IT. I'LL WAIT TILL I HEAR IT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT LINE ITEM. OKAY. MAYOR PAUL, MR. PAUL, MR. PAULSON SO AND YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING CONCEPT HERE. THERE'S GOT TO BE A POINT AT WHICH OUR PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE AND OUR STAFF PEOPLE AND OUR SERGEANTS, OUR POLICE. THERE'S GOT TO BE A CRITERIA WHERE YOU NEED TO COME TO US AND SAY, WE GOT A PROBLEM ON THIS STREET, THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED. AND AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT AND BRING THAT TO US, THEN I THINK THE CITY SHOULD PAY TO DO THAT FIX BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, RIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTING OR NOT WANTING IT. SO CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW THAT WORKS? LET ME OFFER CLARIFICATION. SO IN AS A COMPANION OR A SUPPORT TO THE SAFE STREETS FOR SAFETY ACTION PLAN, WE DID THROUGH A ROBUST DATA COLLECTION AND SURVEY, PREPARE THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK FOR THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS AND IDENTIFIED THOSE STREET SEGMENTS AND INTERSECTIONS ACROSS THE CITY THAT DEMONSTRATED THE GREATEST NEED VIA A VULNERABLE USER. ACCIDENTS, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, OVERALL PROPERTY DAMAGE, ETC. SO OUR OUR PRIMARY SOURCE PLACE, WE LOOK TO SEE WHERE'S THE PROBLEM, WHERE DO WE BEST ATTACK AND REDUCE NUMBERS OF ACCIDENTS FATALITIES, INJURIES IS VIA THAT HIGH INJURY NETWORK THAT WAS CREATED BY VIRTUE OF THAT STUDY. SO THAT'S WHERE WE GO. AND AS A PRIMARY SOURCE TO SEEK PROPOSED PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE TO ATTACK THAT GOAL AGAIN. 2040 GOAL OF. YES, SIR. THOSE ARE THE FIRST LIST WE WORK THROUGH BECAUSE THERE'S OBJECTIVE DATA THAT SAYS THIS IS A PROBLEM WE AS A CITY NEED TO FIX. YES, SIR. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST ONE FOR ME. I'M NOT TOO SURE HOW THAT FACTORS INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDING THAT THEY HAVE TOO MUCH SPEEDING, BUT THERE'S NOT DATA TO SUPPORT IT. ONE OF THEM'S OBJECTIVE I CAN SEE SPENDING THE MONEY. LET'S FIX THE PROBLEM. LET'S MAKE IT SAFER. IT GETS COMPLICATED WHEN WE GET INTO WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS WANT OR NOT WANT, IF THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR IT. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MISS ROCHELLE. SO I'VE ASKED YOU SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT WILLIAMSON AND CHERRY TREE, AND IT'S NOT ON HERE. IS THAT A DIFFERENT STUDY OR. I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE. THOSE STUDIES WERE INTERSECTION EVALUATIONS AND NOT A TRAFFIC. SO THIS IS JUST TRAFFIC CALMING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. YEAH. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO UPDATE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION FROM 1 TO 2. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE MORE IF WE NEED IT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT. CLARIFY THE ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE. SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S UNSAID IN OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. THERE WE GO.THANK YOU. THE CITY BY PROCESS BY PRACTICE, HAS MAINTAINED THE TRAFFIC CALMING ONCE INSTALLED.
SO WE JUST LIKE TO CODIFY AND CLARIFY THAT IN TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY THAT MOVING FORWARD, AS THESE INSTALLATIONS TAKE PLACE, MAINTENANCE IS PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND THAT'S INCLUDED REMOVAL AS WE PAVE WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, AND THEN REINSTALLATION OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES. SO WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND AN UPDATE TO THE POLICY THAT CLARIFIES THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS, ONCE INSTALLED. ANY OBJECTIONS? ALL RIGHT. PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. ON THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION, MOST MUNICIPALITIES, AS YOU SAW FROM THE JURISDICTIONAL POLL THAT KRISTIN HAD PREPARED. THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED THRESHOLD REQUIRED TO QUALIFY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE THAT FROM TEN MILES PER HOUR OVER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT OUR POLICY CURRENTLY STATES, WHICH IS EIGHT MILES PER HOUR OVER THE CURRENT POSTED SPEED LIMIT. AND YOU SAW THAT SAME LOGIC STATE LAW. WHEN YOU ENFORCE APPLIED WITH THE SPEED ZONE CAMERAS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT A MOMENT AGO. SO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE SET THE 85TH PERCENTILE MEASURE AT TEN MILES PER HOUR OVER ANY OBJECTION. IS THERE A PUBLIC WORKS ANSWER FOR THAT? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PRUDENT? I MEAN, IS THIS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT UNEDUCATED ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE DECIDING OR WHAT'S THE WHAT IS THE STANDARD OF A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR MEASURING SPEEDING? OR IS IS THE 85TH PERCENTILE? AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, THE LOGIC OF TEN MILES, MILES PER HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT IS
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THE ENFORCED SPEED IN GEORGIA WOULD BE THE TWO LOGICS WE WOULD MERGE. AND I GUESS IT COULD BE SUBJECT TO EXCEPTIONS BASED ON THINGS THAT HAPPENED. YES, IT'S THOSE TWO LOGICS PUSHED TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW ANY OBJECTION SO ORDERED. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT PROPOSAL REMOVE DEAD END STREETS FROM ELIGIBILITY. IF TRAFFIC CALMING IS ABOUT, SAY AGAIN, IT'S ONLY LOGICAL. IT'S IT'S AN US THING. IT'S SO YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEBODY ON THAT STREET. YES, SIR. YEAH.OR A VISITOR OR SOMEBODY WHO'S LOST OR SERVICE OR WHOEVER ON THAT STREET. PLEASE. ANY OBJECTION? PROCEED. NEXT RECOMMENDATION. REMOVE THE VERY LOW VOLUME STREETS. THOSE STREETS THAT HAVE LESS THAN 300 VEHICLES PER DAY FROM ELIGIBILITY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING.
ANY OBJECTION SO ORDERED. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN BAUMAN, THE QUESTION CONCERN. REMOVE THOSE PASSIVE TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS FROM THE LIST OF RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED MEASURES I A ROADWAY PAVEMENT MARKINGS. WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT WHEN WE REPAVE. AND AS YOU RECOLLECT ON I BELIEVE IT WAS GLENN AERO. WE RESTRIPED WHEN WE REPAVE. THAT'S THE PRUDENT TIME TO DO IT SO THAT YOU DON'T ENTER INTO ERADICATION, ETC. TO MODIFY LINES WITH THE REPAVING PROJECT OR RADAR SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS ON THOSE LOW VOLUME AND RELATIVELY LOW SPEED ROADWAYS RESERVE THOSE FOR THE HIGHER SPEED AND HIGHER VOLUME ROADWAYS. SAYING REMOVE RADAR SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS. I MEAN, YOU AND I JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ROBERTS DRIVE. WELL, AND I'M THINKING YOU SHOULD ADD 1 OR 2 MORE TO THAT ONE. YEAH. FOR INSTANCE, ON ROBERTS DRIVE, THOSE WERE NOT INSTALLED VIA THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. THOSE WERE INSTALLED INDEPENDENTLY BASED ON STAFF RESEARCH ASSESSMENT OF SPEEDS ON THE ROAD, THAT ROAD, THAT SECTION OF ROBERTS, FOR INSTANCE, IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR BECAUSE OF THE SPEED LIMIT THERE AND SPEEDS AND VOLUMES ON THE ROADWAY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES LIKE SPEED HUMPS, SPEED TABLES, ETC. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE THESE SIGNS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE UP THERE. NO, SIR. NO, THEY'RE MORE SO APPROPRIATELY PLACED THEM ON THE ROADS WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS OF A CHARACTER THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR RADAR SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS YOU MAY HAVE YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, BUT ARE YOU IS THE ROAD THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS. WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE THE BOX. THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY TO THAT STRIPING OR STRIPING PARTICULARLY. AND ONE OF THE METHODS WE'VE USED IN THE INTEREST OF ENCOURAGING DRIVERS TO BETTER BEHAVE ON SOME OF THE ROADWAYS IS AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF OUR OLDER ROADWAYS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN OR ROADWAYS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REPAVED IN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE INCORPORATED. AND THAT NUMBER GETS FEWER AND FEWER EVERY YEAR. THEY WERE STRIPED AT LEAST EDGE STRIPED OUT TO 12FT OR 12 FOOT TRAVEL LANES. AS WE'VE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE REPAVING PROGRAM, AND IN THE INTEREST OF CREATING SOME AVAILABLE SHOULDER, WE'VE RESTRIPED MANY OF THOSE ROADWAYS NOW TO 11FT ON LANE WIDTHS THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A STANDARD OF 11 AND IN SOME CASES BASED ON TRAFFIC, ETC. WE'VE EVEN GONE TO TEN FEET ON SOME OF THE ROADWAYS HERE. IN THE INTEREST OF ENCOURAGING CONFINING THE ROADWAY AND ENCOURAGING DRIVERS TO MOVE MORE SLOWLY THROUGH THOSE COMPRESSED ROADWAYS. SO WHY DO WE WANT TO REMOVE THESE OPTIONS FROM YOUR REMOVE THEM FROM THE TRAFFIC CALMING APPROACH? INSTEAD, ADDRESS THOSE MORE APPROPRIATELY. WHEN WE DO OTHER WORKS. FOR INSTANCE STRIPE TO 11. IF THE ROADWAY SHOULDER IS STRIPED ALREADY, WE'LL STRIPE TO 11 AS WE REPAVE AS A STANDARD PRACTICE, WHICH WE DO AS WE PAY ROADWAYS NOW.
ANY OBJECTION SO ORDERED. ALL RIGHT. NOW AN ACTIVE TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS HERE, PARTICULARLY MANY ROUNDABOUTS AND CHICANES ARE DISCUSSED AS STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON REMOVING THOSE FROM TRAFFIC CALMING. THOSE DEVICES TO PROPERLY PERFORM. NEED RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY NEED RECONSTRUCTION OF A ROADWAY TO IMPLEMENT SIGNIFICANT AND AND I
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DON'T HAVE PRICE HISTORY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CONSTRUCTED ANY OF THESE THINGS ON ANY NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. THE ONLY PLACES WE'VE INSTALLED OR ARE INSTALLING MINI ROUNDABOUTS ARE ON HIGHER VOLUME ROADWAYS RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'VE HAD INTERSECTION CHALLENGES. FOR INSTANCE, THE MINI ROUNDABOUT CURRENTLY IN DESIGN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALLEN AND LAKE FOREST. SO WE DON'T HAVE COST HISTORY THERE. WE KNOW FROM THE COST HISTORY WOULD THE ROUNDABOUTS WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED AND ARE CONSTRUCTING THAT THEY COST, IN SOME CASES RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. IT'S AROUND A MILLION OR SO, 600 PLUS ON THE MINI ROUNDABOUT, LAKE FOREST AT ALLEN AND THERE, A LITTLE MORE LAND INTENSIVE THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN TOLERATE. SO WE DON'T HAVE A HISTORY TO DATE OF INSTALLING THESE KINDS OF DEVICES ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROGRAM WAS CRAFTED FOR. SO A CHALLENGE THERE WITH NOT HAVING A GOOD HISTORY ON IT. AND, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE FACT THAT MAYBE ROADWAYS DO NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED, BUT IT IS VERY MUCH SO. A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT BOTH ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS PART AND THE CITY'S PART, TO PURSUE MEASURES LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T GOING TO DO THIS, RIGHT. I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR, BUT ONCE WE REMOVE AND I KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO DO THIS, BECAUSE ONCE WE REMOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHARE, WHICH THEY CAN BARELY GET PEOPLE TO AGREE TO FOR SPEED HUMPS, AND IF WE START REDUCING OR ELIMINATING THE SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT, THEN OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO COME UP. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE YOU CAN PUT THIS ON YOUR LIST OF TREATMENTS. I GET IT, IT IS EXPENSIVE. BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE AGAIN, THIS MAY BE DOWN THE ROAD IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS TO NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING, THEN THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCORE AND DO OVER A PERIOD OF MANY YEARS. AND I AND MAYBE AND MAYBE TRAFFIC SAFETY OR TRAFFIC UNDER CONGESTION OR OTHER THINGS, THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR A TIER ONE TSPLOST ALLOCATION IN THE FUTURE OF X MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SCORE THESE PROJECTS. CLEARLY, WE CAN'T HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS JUST ASKING FOR THESE, BUT THESE WOULD HAVE TO BE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING DATA THAT SAYS, YEAH, THAT'S THE LONG TERM FIX FOR THIS, FOR THE MODERN USE OF THIS ROAD. AND VERY LIKELY WE'D PROBABLY LOOK FOR THAT COINCIDENCE OF A STREET THAT APPEARED ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK AND A TRAFFIC CALMING. WELL, THOSE CERTAINLY WOULD GO FIRST TO HELP DRIVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT. SO A QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. I THINK THESE THINGS ARE EFFECTIVE. I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THEM. SO WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THEM. YOU'RE ELIMINATING THEM FROM AN OPTION FOR THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY. BECAUSE OF THE COST BEING SO PROHIBITIVE. DOESN'T GET ELECTED, DOESN'T GET PICKED UP, PICKED ANYWAY. BUT WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THEM FROM THE POTENTIAL USAGE ONCE THEY HAVE TO STOP PAYING. AND IF THAT'S ON THE LIST OF OPTIONS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT. BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT DO THE SPEED CUSHIONS, OR DO THEY OFFER THE SAME RESULT AS A CHICANE AND A ROUNDABOUT? BECAUSE WE HAVE CHICANES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE ANDY SAID? AND I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE THEM AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY PREFER THE SPEED HUMPS, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE, SO. RIGHT. SO IN THE CASE OF THE SPEED HUMPS, KRISTEN AND HER STAFF HAVE FOUND, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK FOR YOURSELF ANYTIME YOU LIKE, CHRIS, BUT THAT FOR COST EFFECTIVENESS, REGARDLESS OF WHO EXPENDS THE MONEY, THE SPEED HUMPS HAVE BEEN FAR MORE EFFECTIVE THAN PRETTY MUCH ANY OTHER DEVICE THAT WE'VE SEEN. THEY ARE RELATIVELY LOW COST INSTALL, RELATIVELY LOW COST TO MAINTAIN, AND THEY STILL REQUIRE THE TRAFFIC TO SLOW DOWN IN ORDER TO NAVIGATE THE SPEED HUMPS. WELL, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS PUBLIC SAFETY ACCESS CHICANES. MANY ROUNDABOUTS SLOW OUR OWN FIRST RESPONDERS AS WELL, WHEREAS THE SPEED HUMPS, AT LEAST WITH THE FIRE TRUCKS, THEY'VE GOT THE ABILITY, IN MOST CASES NOT ALL, BUT TO TO STRADDLE THOSE AND CONTINUE ON AT SPEED. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS WELL. I THINK SPEED HUMPS ARE PROBABLY AND I'D LOOK FOR THE CHIEFS TO RESPOND. SPEED HUMPS PROBABLY WOULD BE PREFERABLE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IF THEY'RE PROPERLY CONSTRUCTED, AS OPPOSED TO CHICANES AND MINI ROUNDABOUTS.
WOULD THAT BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT, CHIEF? OKAY. SO THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY ASSIST IN BY REMOVING THESE AS AN OPTION, IT WOULD ASSIST IN IMPROVING FIRST RESPONDER RESPONSE AS
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WELL. SO. YEAH, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, YOU GOT A LOT OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENTS PRETTY QUICKLY. WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO ORDERED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS NEXT ITEM UPDATE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION SPEAKS TO MORE.SO THAT FINAL WORD IN THAT TEXT STRING THERE PARTICIPATION. SO AND IT'S MORE SO ON US TO CLARIFY AND INSTITUTIONALIZE CODIFY THE WAY IN WHICH MONIES ARE RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION IS STILL RECEIVED. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH AN ACCOUNTING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TO CLARIFY AND CODIFY WITHIN THE POLICY WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. HERE'S HOW THE MONEY SHOULD COME IN. IS IT A FAIR SHARE THING? WHO DO THEY SEND THE MONIES TO? HOW ARE THE MONIES HELD IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT TRAFFIC CALMING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S REALLY THE INTENTION OF THIS, MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE, IS WE SOLIDIFY THE PROCESS. FOR THOSE THAT ARE CONSIDERING PARTICIPATING WITH MONEY. MISS MUELLER. SO HOW DOES THIS WORK THEN TODAY, MARTY? SO IS IT JUST SORT OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY RANDOM, BUT IS IT DIFFERENT EVERY TIME BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT A SET PROCESS FOR HOW THIS WOULD WORK. WE COLLECT MONIES. THOSE MONIES ARE COLLECTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
ALL RIGHT, KRISTEN, GO AHEAD. YOU'VE GOT IT. IT HAS BEEN LEFT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT COLLECTION. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PROJECT WE GIVE THEM A WE HAVE GIVEN THEM AN ESTIMATE UP FRONT. HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO COLLECT AND THEN FINANCE BILLS THEM AT THE END WHEN WE'RE COMPLETED WITH THE PROJECT. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIKE, WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO EACH SEND ON OUR OWN CHECK, RIGHT? SO MAYBE MONEY NEEDS TO BE POOLED. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ESCROW HELD UNTIL THE PROJECT'S COMPLETE SORT OF THING. AND THERE AND ANOTHER OPTION, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY WOULD CONTINUE TO GO, OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THIS THAT ARE VERY LOCALIZED, THAT THEY ACTUALLY CREATE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY COULD CONSIDER A TAX IMPROVEMENT ZONE. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT ZONE. COBB COUNTY DOES IT FOR LIKE SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK SOME IN DEKALB DO THAT, MAYBE IN DEKALB COUNTY. AND THEY ACTUALLY, WHERE THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY DEKALB COUNTY PUT IN TRAFFIC CALMING. THERE IS A FEE FOR EVERYONE WITHIN THAT AREA OF IMPACT FOREVER ON THAT PROPERTY TO HELP PAY FOR MAINTENANCE. SO THAT'S OFFSETS THAT COST OF BOTH THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE MAINTENANCE COSTS. SO HAVE WE EVER HAD A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE DONE AND IMPLEMENTED THE TRAFFIC CALMING AND THEN WENT TO COLLECT AND COULDN'T COLLECT? NO. OKAY. SO EVERYBODY'S PAID THEIR BILLS. NOT SINCE I'VE ADMINISTERED IT. OKAY. SHOULD WE VOTE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION BEFORE WE DO THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT THE PAYMENT, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S ABOUT PAYMENT. IF PAYMENT CONTINUES, SEPARATE QUESTION. THIS IS ABOUT CLARIFYING PAYMENTS. IF THERE ARE STILL PAYMENTS IN THE FUTURE, THIS RECOMMENDATION COULD BE NULLIFIED BASED ON HOW YOU VOTE ON THE NEXT ONE OR THAT OTHER ITEM THOUGH. COUNCIL MEMBER. I THINK WE NEED TO ELIMINATE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT WHERE WE ARE NOW? THE NEIGHBORHOOD PAYMENT PIECE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PAYMENT PIECE IS IN THIS LIST. WE'RE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IF WE ELIMINATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PAYMENT PIECE, THEN WE WANT, WELL, THE PARTICIPATION IS GOING TO GO AWAY. YEAH. I MEAN THERE MAY BE PEOPLE SAY I DON'T WANT SPEED HUMPS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE FEWER BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY. BUT ALSO THE PAYMENTS. VERY. IT'S NOT EQUITABLE. I MEAN, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MIGHT WANT THIS, BUT THEY JUST FINANCIALLY CAN'T AFFORD IT. I MEAN, WE NEED WE NEED TO BE REMOVING THIS. SO MAYOR PAUL GOT A QUESTION HERE, MR. PAULSON, IF WE ELIMINATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICIPATION, THEN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS SOME OF THIS STUFF. HOW DO WE DECIDE WHICH ONE'S WARRANTED AND WHICH ONES DON'T WARRANT IT? AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE SAME THING. WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR YOU THAT FOR THAT AT THE VERY END OF THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST AS COUNCILMAN BOWMAN ALLUDED TO, IT'S A SCORING METHODOLOGY. WE CREATE A SCORING MATRIX FOR WHICH ARE MOST ELIGIBLE, WHICH ARE LEAST ELIGIBLE BASED ON NEED, SEVERITY OF TRAFFIC CALMING NEED. AND WE'LL GO TO THAT. HOW MUCH HAVE WE ACTUALLY CHARGED NEIGHBORHOODS FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE PAST? SO IN IN IF YOU SEE TOTAL COST AGAINST THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DONE, THAT'S A 5050 SHARE. AND BUT HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH HAVE WE ACTUALLY BUILD THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
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WE BUILD THEM $1,500 OR $15,000 OR $150,000. IT HAS DEPENDED ON THE AMOUNT OF INSTALLATION THEY PURCHASED. SO FOR EACH OF THOSE INSTALLATIONS, YOU SEE, BASED ON OUR POLICY SINCE 2020, 50% OF THAT INSTALLATION COST HAS BEEN BORNE ■BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.WHAT'S THE SPEED BUMP COST? OKAY, SO FOR INSTANCE, LET'S GO TO A. 20, I THINK. THERE YOU GO.
SO JET ROAD, TWO SETS OF SPEED CUSHIONS WERE INSTALLED. TOTAL COST OF 19,800. HALF OF THAT COST $10,000 WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND HOW MUCH IS MAINTENANCE? I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT TOO. HOW MUCH HAVE WE EXPENDED IN MAINTENANCE? MAYBE IS A BETTER. IF I COULD REFRAME THE QUESTION. SO THESE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS, THIS BEING MAINTENANCE WHERE WE HAD TO REPLACE A SPEED HUMP, MAYBE IT'S DUE TO REPAVING EFFORT. WHATEVER THE CASE WAS, HERE'S WHAT IT COST THE CITY AS WE REPAVED, REMOVE SPEED HUMPS AND THEN REINSTALL THEM. WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS YES, SIR. OKAY. LET'S JUST TAKE LET'S JUST TAKE JET ROAD FOR THERE. THAT'S DIVIDED $10,000 DIVIDED AMONG HOW MANY HOMES? 10 OR 12 HOMES PARTICIPATED IN THAT. BUT BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD ON HOW THEY COLLECT THAT MONEY.
IT'S NOT ASSESSED EVENLY ACROSS THE AREA OF IMPACT. IT'S A PASS THE HAT DONATION. SO IN THIS CASE, THIS WAS NOT AN HOA. NO, THIS WAS A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORS. AND THEY AGREED TO RAISE THE MONEY AMONG THEMSELVES TO PARTICIPATE. I JUST YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS PRIDED SANDY SPRINGS AS BEING AN AFFLUENT NEIGHBORHOOD. I JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A NEIGHBOR WHO WANTS SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN'T COME UP WITH THEIR SHARE TO FINANCE IT. I CAN'T DISAGREE MORE. I CAN'T DISAGREE MORE. NO, YOU CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES. THEY LIVE THERE. THEY'VE SEEN THEIR THEIR TAXES GO UP, INFLATION EAT AWAY AT THEIR SAVINGS. WE DON'T WE SHOULD NOT BE COUNTING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. AND THIS IS A POLICY FOR THE WHOLE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LIVING IN MANSIONS THAT ARE ASSESSED AT $4 MILLION. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO WE NEED IF THERE'S A DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR SAFETY TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN. AND I CAN TELL YOU I'VE SEEN IT ON JET ROAD. IT'S LIKE A SPEEDWAY AT TIMES. I MEAN, SOME OF THE IT MAY NOT BE YOUR OVERALL STATS, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT USE THAT FOR RACEWAY THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP IN AND HANDLE THIS. THIS IS NOT THIS IS THIS IS A NEED AND A BASIC PUBLIC SERVICE THAT WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING. I AGREE WITH THAT. I'VE NOT DONE A LOT OF DOORS RECENTLY AND NOT EVERYBODY IS WEALTHY LIKE YOU THINK. AND I AGREE. WELL, I JUST THINK IT'S AWFUL EASY TO REQUEST MONEY, OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. WELL, THEY STILL HAVE TO PASS THE TESTS. THESE ARE OUR PROBLEMS. AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE ROADS THAT ARE DEMONSTRATED TO HAVE SPEEDING ON THEM. THIS IS THE MOST BASIC. THIS IS THE MOST BASIC. PUBLIC DUTY WE HAVE IS KEEPING OUR. AND WE TALK ABOUT PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS LIP SERVICE IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THIS. KRISTEN JUST SHOWED US THE RESULTS OF MOST OF THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE. AND WHEN SHE SHOWED THIS RESULTS OF MOST OF THE STUDIES THAT WAS DONE, IT SAYS IT WASN'T WARRANTED BASED UPON. YOU WENT TOO FAR RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHETHER THE NO. GO BACK. BUT IT WAS WARRANTED AT THAT ROAD, WASN'T IT, KRISTEN. IT WAS IT WAS WARRANTED AT JET ROAD. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE PREMISE OF THIS DISCUSSION, IS THAT THIS WORK IS WARRANTED. SO OF THE TWO STUDIES LAST YEAR THAT WERE CONDUCTED, DUPREE AND RIVERVIEW, ONLY DUPREE ACTUALLY MET THE SPEEDS AND HAD THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WERE DONE LAST YEAR, NOT ANY OF THE THREE OF THEM. NONE OF THEM MET THE CRITERIA, CORRECT. THE ONES WE JUST IT SAYS WE'RE TRAVELING AT OR NEAR. POST STUDY SHOWED MOST VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING AT OR NEAR MOST POST VEHICLES. I MEAN, WE HEAR THIS CONSTANTLY FROM PEOPLE SAYING MY STREET IS A RACEWAY. AND THEN WHEN WE SEND THE POLICE OUT THERE AND THEY DO THE, THE, THE CALCULATIONS ON THERE, THEY FIND OUT THAT THAT'S NOT THE IT'S JUST PERCEPTION IS DIFFERENT THAN REALITY. YEAH. BUT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT JET ROAD. KRISTEN,
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LET ME ASK YOU AGAIN. DID IT QUALIFY IT. DID IT QUALIFIED. SOME STREETS DO AND SOME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ROADS THAT QUALIFY. AM I AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THIS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO START HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT FOLKS WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT IF WE DON'T HURRY UP, HURRY UP THIS PACE.SO WE NEED TO GET SOME DECISIONS MADE, MR. PAULSON. YEAH. MAYOR PAUL, ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTALS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HERE IS IF SOMETHING QUALIFIES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY. I'VE HEARD THIS FROM COUNCILMAN BAUMAN AND MYSELF AND SOME OTHERS. IF IT QUALIFIES, THERE'S A NEED TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY. IT SHOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, IF IT DOESN'T QUALIFY. I'M NOT TOO SURE I WANT TO SPEND CITY'S MONEY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME NEIGHBOR THAT THINKS HE SHOULD HAVE THIS, BUT DOESN'T HIT ANY OF THE CRITERIA IF IT DOESN'T. BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD STUFF, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE POLICY? MR. PAULSON HAS THE FLOOR. LET'S LET'S GO BACK AND REVISIT AND SCRUTINIZE THE POLICY BY WHICH STAFF DECIDES, YES, THIS IS NEEDED OR NO, THIS IS NOT NEEDED. AND I'D RATHER SPEND THE TIME LOOKING AT THAT, BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF SOMETHING IS NEEDED, WE SHOULD DO IT. AND IF SOMETHING IS NOT NEEDED, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND CITY MONEY.
MAYBE THAT'S TOO BLACK AND WHITE, BUT WELL, LET ME SEE IF I CAN CLARIFY WHAT I'M HEARING AND SEE. AND I THINK WHAT I HEAR IS AN EMERGING CONSENSUS IS TO DO THIS BASED ON DATA RATHER THAN. INDIVIDUAL INPUT AND, AND PARTICIPATION, THAT WE SHOULD DO THIS ON USING EMPIRICAL DATA, WE SHOULD RANK THE STREETS IN SOME SORT OF ORDER, SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE DO SIDEWALKS AND STREETS. THE CITY SHOULD PAY FOR WHATEVER THAT COST IS. AND THEN THE COUNCIL CONTROLS THAT THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO ORDERED. WE CAN SHORTEN THIS THING. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MARTY. DO YOU NEED ANY OTHER ANY OTHER DIRECTION THAN THAT? WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE 75%, 75, 25 RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT GOING TO THEY WILL NOT BE INVOLVED ANYMORE. NOPE. NONE OF THAT. ONE OTHER ISSUE, RIGHT.
ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT'S NOT ON THIS THAT I, I NEED I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT WITH ALL THE WORK BEING DONE ON 285 PEOPLE ARE MOVING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS IN MASSIVE NUMBERS INCLUDED. I HAVE SEEN AT LEAST ON HEARD'S FERRY AND SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE PARALLEL TO 285. A LARGE NUMBER OF TRUCKS GETTING OFF AND GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE THOSE. SO I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE OF DEFINING WHAT OUR TRUCK ROUTES ARE, AND PROHIBITING THEM ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF YOU'RE MAKING A LOCAL DELIVERY, WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT STREETS ARE AVAILABLE FOR USE BY HEAVY TRUCKS. I'M SURE ROSWELL ROAD 285 400 WOULD BE AT MINIMUM. I'M NOT SURE THERE ANY MORE BEYOND THAT, BUT I WOULD ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND THE STAFF TO BRING BACK SOME ORDINANCE DEFINING TRUCK ROUTES IN IN THE CITY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OUR STREETS TORN UP AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THREATENED BY LARGE TRUCKS THAT THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO HANDLE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. I HAVE ONE MORE. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR JOB.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE POLICY. BUT IF IF IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE TRAFFIC CALMING IS WARRANTED, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET THE SIGNATURES ANYMORE. THAT WOULD THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT. AND THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. IT WOULD BE DONE ONLY ON EMPIRICAL DATA. STAFF WOULD RATE RATE EACH STREET AND LIST THEM IN ORDER. AND JUST LIKE WE DO A LOT OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS, WE GO DOWN UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF MONEY AND THEY STOP. AND WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THEN? ARE WE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THESE? AND IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE CHANGING POLICY, THEY WILL BE AFFECTED. UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO GRANDFATHER THEM. THAT'S TRUE. SO TONIGHT WE'VE DISCUSSED A PARTICIPATION THRESHOLD. AT LEAST TWO ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NEED TO REQUEST THAT RIGHT. OR THE REQUEST TO STUDY. SO THAT WOULD STILL BE IN PLACE. ELSE WE HAVE ANOTHER MECHANISM TO FIGURE OUT REGARDING HOW TO ASSESS ALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT ELEMENT UP FRONT TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY. OKAY. WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. NOW LET ME LET ME CLARIFY THE POSITION WE'RE IN. NONE OF THIS IS OFFICIAL. THIS IS ADVISORY. THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS BECOMES OFFICIAL IS ONCE THEY BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE WITH THAT INFORMATION THAT WE VOTE ON. SO
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THIS IS THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL POLICY YET. UNTIL AN ORDINANCE IS BROUGHT BACK AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT. ARE WE CLEAR? OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO. THEY WILL. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THOUGH. WE'RE JUST GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE BRING COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE. NOTHING HAS CHANGED UNTIL AN ORDINANCE PASSED. OKAY. WELL, ANY COUNCIL* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.