Sep 02, 2025 City Council

[I. Call to Order]

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FOR CONVENING HAS ARRIVED. SO WE'LL START THIS EVENING'S COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE SANDY SPRINGS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. WILL THE CITY CLERK PLEASE MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CALL THE ROLL? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THOSE IN ATTENDANCE TO PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES AT THIS TIME. INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING'S PUBLIC. COMMENT CARDS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND AT THE CHAMBER ENTRANCE. THOSE PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE ALLOTTED UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THEIR ON THEIR SINGLE CHOSEN TOPIC. AS I CALL ROLL, PLEASE CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE. MAYOR RUSTY PAUL, PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN PAULSON, COUNCIL MEMBER. MELODY KELLY, COUNCIL MEMBER MELISSA MUELLER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JODY ROCHELLE, COUNCIL MEMBER. TIBBY DEJULIO. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDY BAUMANN. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

[IV. Public Comment]

THANKS TO CHIEF DISIMONE AND CHIEF SANDERS FOR THEIR EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP. THANKS TO YOU ALL AS MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING THESE DEPARTMENTS. WHEN WE TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS, ONE OF THE TOP THINGS THAT THEY TELL US ABOUT WHAT THEY APPRECIATE IN SANDY SPRINGS IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT WAS MADE VERY REAL FOR OUR DISTRICT LAST WEEK WITH THE SCARE AT HIGH POINT ELEMENTARY. SO IT MADE VERY REAL HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ASK OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO TAKE A QUICK PHOTO. OKAY. CHIEF CHANDLER. TO. WHERE YOU WANT US TO PUT THE RECORD. YES. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE RENAISSANCE. YES. THAT IS GREAT. OKAY. 123. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH. MR. FORD IN HIGH POINT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED, MR. GRIFFITH. MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M BILL GRIFFITH. MY ADDRESS IS 9580 ROBERTS DRIVE, ATLANTA. 30350. TWO WEEKS AGO, I THOUGHT I WAS THROUGH SPEAKING TO Y'ALL. HOWEVER, TWO ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA CHANGED MY MIND. FIRST, REGARDING THE UPCOMING DISCUSSION ABOUT SELLING RIVERFRONT LAND ON NORTH ISLAND FERRY ROAD TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. THAT LAND WAS PURCHASED TO EXPAND THE CITY'S GREENSPACE NETWORK, INCREASE ACCESS TO THE RIVER, AND EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING CR NRA PROPERTY. END QUOTE. MY COMMENT, GIVEN THAT THE LAND IS AS IS, PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE RIVER AND THAT THE PARK IMPOSES AN ENTRY FEE, I DON'T SEE HOW SELLING THE LAND TO THE NPS INCREASES ACCESS TO THE RIVER. I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT I'VE MISSED THINGS BEFORE.

FURTHERMORE, PER THE PRINTED AGENDA MEMO DATED AUGUST 21ST, END QUOTE NPS CANNOT PURCHASE

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THE CITY CAN SELL THE PROPERTIES TO THE TPL, WHICH WILL THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO NPS. END QUOTE MY COMMENT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CLASSIC STEP TRANSACTION, ONE THAT INVITES LITIGATION. I DON'T SEE HOW IN GOOD CONSCIENCE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN SUCH A TRANSACTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFITH. ANY OTHERS? NO. ALL RIGHT.

[V. Approval of Meeting Agenda]

[VI. Consent Agenda]

[VIII. Public Hearing]

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MADAM CLERK, HOW MANY COMMENT CARDS DO WE HAVE IN FAVOR AND IN OPPOSITION? SO WE HAVE THREE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT AND TWO IN OPPOSITION. OKAY. MAYOR PAUL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. ALL RIGHT. STATE YOUR QUESTION. AND CITY ATTORNEY. SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, I HAD ASKED MR. LEE THIS TO WEIGH IN, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD YET THE FACT THAT THIS IS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT REFLECTS THAT. IT'S THE VIEW OF STAFF THAT THIS IS WITHIN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE A CHOICE HERE TONIGHT. WE CAN VOTE YAY OR NAY. STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERTURN OR TO AUTHORIZE ANY VARIANCE FROM THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DECISION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ISSUED BY NO, NO. THE QUESTION IS COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. SO WE ARE HAVING THIS HEARING AND VOTE BECAUSE COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAS THE DISCRETION TO WEIGH IN ON THIS TONIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE DISCRETION TO WEIGH ON THIS. YOU'RE YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT.

HEAR THIS. BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS WRITTEN MANY YEARS AGO ALLOWS THAT ANY APPLICANT WHO DOESN'T LIKE THE DECISION OF THE STAFF CAN APPEAL IT TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO WE DON'T HAVE DISCRETION TONIGHT TO WEIGH IN. YOU'RE BOUND BY THE LAWS. WHICH MEANS WHAT? THAT YOU CANNOT VIOLATE THE LAW. WE HAVE A VOTE TONIGHT. ARE YOU MR. LEE? ARE YOU ADVISING THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE VOTE WE CAN TAKE TONIGHT? I'M NOT ADVISING ANYTHING. I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION. CAN THE COUNCIL VOTE YES OR NO TONIGHT? YES. THEY CAN VOTE YES OR NO.

IT'S IN THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO DO THAT. YOU CAN VOTE ANY WAY YOU CHOOSE, BUT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE. CORRECT? NO. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. YES. THIS IS A COME TO US BECAUSE THERE IS NOW THE PROCEDURE HAS LED US TO THIS POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL NOW GETS TO WEIGH IN AS THE DECIDER, YES OR NO TO THIS REQUEST. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT RIGHT? EXCEPT THAT I THINK YOU'RE CONFUSING THIS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE RULES. RIGHT. AND THE STAFF CAN'T HELP YOU. WE'VE ALREADY OPINED ON WHAT THE ANSWER IS. SO EACH COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE ON THEIR OWN HOW THEY WANT TO VOTE ON THIS. BUT DO WE LEGALLY HAVE A DISCRETION IN THIS, IN THIS CHOICE TONIGHT, THAT THE TERM LEGALLY IS A VERY INNOCUOUS TERM? I'M NOT. I ASKED YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS YESTERDAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU. SO NOW WE'RE JUST FINDING OUT TONIGHT. I WANTED TO HEAR. OKAY, LET'S LET'S NOT GET ARGUMENTATIVE. NO CITY ATTORNEY'S GETTING ARGUMENTATIVE WITH ME. I'M JUST ASKING, DO WE OR DO WE NOT HAVE DISCRETION? I'M ADDRESSING BOTH OF YOU. LET'S NOT BE ARGUMENTATIVE. YOU HAVE THE THE ABILITY TO VOTE. I DON'T GET TO TELL YOU WHETHER YOU HAVE DISCRETION OR NOT. I GET I GIVE YOU ADVICE, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. AS TOUGH AS THAT MAY BE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE. LET ME SEE IF I CAN CLARIFY THIS A LITTLE BIT. WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DOES, THE COUNCIL CAN UNDO. SO AS IN ANY MATTER COMING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO IT TONIGHT. BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER CANNOT ADVISE US ABOUT WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LAW THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW. SO IF WE DECIDE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, THAT IS TOTALLY WITHIN THE DISCRETION AND THE POWER OF THIS BODY. I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION. THIS BODY HAS THE DISCRETION TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU. BUT THEY CAN'T TELL US THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE UP OUR MINDS ON. YOUR HONOR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, MAY ALSO. YOU COULD GET SUED ON A YES VOTE AND YOU COULD GET SUED ON A NO VOTE. SO YOUR LAWYER CAN'T TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE. I THINK I REMEMBER THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO GET SUED ALL THE TIME. SO I THINK YOU TOLD US THAT ONCE. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. SO FIRST UP, WE HAVE PAUL BARTON, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER MIRGOROD, WHO'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JAMES CARPER. OKAY. MR. BARTON, YOU CAN DIVIDE THE TEN MINUTES THAT YOU HAVE INTO ANY WAY YOU WANT. SO IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU HAVE THAT DISCRETION, TOO. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT DISCRETION. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS PAUL BARTON. I LIVE AT 5550 MOUNT VERNON PARKWAY IN SANDY SPRINGS. I'M IN MY 12TH YEAR AS HEAD OF HOLY INNOCENTS. HOLY INNOCENTS EPISCOPAL SCHOOL HAS BEEN PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR 65 YEARS. OUR ROOTS HERE RUN DEEP, AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE BOTH A SCHOOL AND A NEIGHBOR IN THIS COMMUNITY. MORE THAN 60% OF OUR FAMILIES LIVE RIGHT HERE IN SANDY SPRINGS. MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND OUR CAMPUS ARE OUR PARENTS, ALUMNI, AND EXTENDED FAMILY. WE HAVE. WE HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO DO

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UNLESS THERE'S AN OVERTIME. AS SOON AS THE FANS HAVE SAFELY LEFT, WE'LL TURN THEM OFF. AND FINALLY, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT A FOOTBALL GAME. IT'S A CHANCE FOR FAMILIES AND ALUMNI, MANY OF WHOM LIVE RIGHT HERE IN SANDY SPRINGS, TO COME TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE IN A WAY THAT STRENGTHENS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. I ONLY ASKED A FEW KEY FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TONIGHT. WHILE WE COULD HAVE FILLED THIS PLACE WITH HUNDREDS OF KIDS AND FAMILIES DRESSED IN CRIMSON AND GOLD AND TURNED IT INTO A MAKESHIFT PEP RALLY, WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.

IT'S NOT OUR STYLE TO CREATE UNDUE DRAMA. I FEEL OUR CASE IS A STRONG ONE AND CAN REST ON ITS OWN MERIT. BUT PLEASE KNOW OUR COMMUNITY STANDS 100% BEHIND OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST AND FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY LIFE HERE IN SANDY SPRINGS. THANK YOU. NEXT, JENNIFER MIRGOROD. HI, GOOD EVENING. I'M JENNIFER MIRGOROD AND I RESIDE AT 965 CREST VALLEY DRIVE IN SANDY SPRINGS, AND I'M ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER IN SANDY SPRINGS. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN PART OF HOLY INNOCENTS EPISCOPAL SCHOOL FOR MANY YEARS. MY OLDER DAUGHTER GRADUATED IN 2024 AND NOW AS A STUDENT AT FURMAN UNIVERSITY, AND MY YOUNGER DAUGHTER IS A SENIOR AT HOLY INNOCENTS EPISCOPAL SCHOOL. I'VE SERVED ON THE SCHOOL'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR FIVE YEARS, AND I'M NOW THE CHAIR IN MY FIRST YEAR. AS BOARD CHAIR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M MOST PROUD OF IS OUR STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR, TEMPLE SINAI. TEMPLE SINAI IS LOCATED JUST BEHIND BAKER FIELD.

OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE WORKED HARD TO BE GOOD PARTNERS, AND WE'RE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF OUR HOMECOMING EVENT. THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STAND WITH US SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE TRUST WE'VE BUILT TOGETHER. WHEN THIS IDEA WAS INITIALLY CONCEIVED, TEMPLE SINAI WAS OUR FIRST CALL. WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT COPIES OF THE EMAIL OF SUPPORT OF OUR HOMECOMING EVENT SENT BY SENIOR RABBI BRAD LEVENBERG OF TEMPLE SINAI TO DISTRICT SIX COUNCILMAN ANDY BAUMAN. I'M HAPPY TO READ IT FOR THE RECORD IF NEEDED. OKAY, EXCELLENT. IN THE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY EXTENDS TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING MOUNT VERNON BAPTIST CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET. WHETHER IT'S MOUNT VERNON BAPTIST CHURCH, TEMPLE SINAI, AND OUR OWN HOLY INNOCENTS EPISCOPAL CHURCH, WE'RE COMMITTED TO CARING FOR THESE RELATIONSHIPS. THEY MATTER DEEPLY TO US, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO STRENGTHEN THEM. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, AS A PARENT, I'M GRATEFUL THAT MY DAUGHTER, ALONG WITH SO MANY SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF HOLY INNOCENTS, MIGHT HAVE THE CHANCE TO EXPERIENCE FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS AT THEIR SCHOOL, EVEN IF JUST FOR ONE NIGHT. IT'S A MEMORY THEY'LL NEVER FORGET. THANK YOU, JAMES JAMES CARPER AND WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY AMY HILLMAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES CARPER. MY ADDRESS IS 5100 JET FOREST TRAIL AND I LIVE IN SANDY SPRINGS. I'M A SENIOR AT HOLY INNOCENTS EPISCOPAL SCHOOL, AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOOTBALL HERE SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND

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FIRST UP IS STEVE LEEDS, FOLLOWED BY RHONDA SMITH. MR. LEEDS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M STEVE LEEDS I LIVE AT 6410 RADIANT TRACE IN SANDY SPRINGS. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ARIA WEST COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. I MOVED TO SANDY SPRINGS THREE YEARS AGO TO CELEBRATE AND ENJOY THE CITY THAT THE PEOPLE CREATED 20 YEARS AGO. YOU HAVE SET THE DEVELOPMENT CODE NEXT TEN VISION PLANS ALONG WITH LAND USE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO GUIDE THE FUTURE VISION FOR THE CITY. THAT VISION, PARTICULARLY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN ROOTED IN PROTECTION OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE. I HAVE A GROWING CONCERN THAT WE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDES. GUIDES CREATED AND APPROVED BY YOU WITH THE ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF COMMUNITY RESIDENTS. THOSE GUIDES HAVE SET BY CONDITIONS, THEN BECOME LAW FOR LAND USE. LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS AS ONE OFF OR NOT A BIG DEAL WITHOUT FULLY APPRECIATING THE PRECEDENTIAL NATURE OF THE ACTION AND OR HOW THE ACTION DOES NOT FOLLOW THE PLANS ENACTED AND APPROVED BY YOU IS MY CONCERN, AND THIS CONCERN GROWS WHEN I RECOGNIZE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED AFTER NOVEMBER WITH AT LEAST THREE OF YOUR COUNCIL SEATS HELD BY NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE. AND WHAT GUIDANCE WILL YOU LEAVE FOR YOUR SUCCESSORS? AND SO I RISE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION TO ALLOW FIELD LIGHTS AT HOLY INNOCENTS, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS AN APPROPRIATE APPLICATION, AND BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL PRECEDENT IT MAY SET FOR OTHERS TO USE THIS MECHANISM AS AN EASY WAY AROUND THE ZONING RULES AND SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS IN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT GRANTED AFTER WIDE PUBLIC COMMENTARY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS HOMECOMING FOOTBALL GAME QUALIFIES AS A SPECIAL EVENT. I BELIEVE A SPECIAL EVENT REQUIRES SPECIAL PUBLIC SERVICES AND GATHERINGS OR ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT MAKE NO USE OF CITY STREETS, OTHER THAN FOR LAWFUL PARKING ARE NOT SPECIAL EVENTS. THE HOLY INNOCENTS HOMECOMING GAME IS HELD ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WON'T EVEN REQUIRE LAWFUL PARKING ON CITY STREETS, BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING AT THE SCHOOL. AND IF NECESSARY, THE CHURCH IS ACROSS THE STREET. I BELIEVE HOLY INNOCENTS ROUTINELY HIRES OFF DUTY POLICE FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND I UNDERSTAND ALL GEORGIA SCHOOLS PAY TO HAVE AN EMS TEAM AT EVERY GAME. IT'S ALL ROUTINE. NO ADDITIONAL CITY RESOURCES WILL BE REQUIRED. FOR THESE REASONS, I SUGGEST THIS GAME ISN'T A SPECIAL EVENT, AND I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RHONDA SMITH, 76, LONG ISLAND PLACE. I AM PRESIDENT OF THE SANDY SPRINGS COUNCIL OF NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I COME BEFORE YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD TONIGHT, THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE CONDITION INSTALLED BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT PROHIBITS HIGH LEVEL, HIGH INTENSITY FIELD LIGHTS IS THE END RUN AROUND ABIDING BY A LAW GOVERNING LAND USE ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUS? THIS IS NOT CODE THAT HAS A

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COUNCIL OF NEIGHBORHOODS ASKS YOU TO DENY THIS APPEAL OF THE DIRECTORS AND CITY MANAGER'S DECISION TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? NO. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE. THAT DOES. I'M NOT MR. CALM DOWN. JUST CALM DOWN. MR. BARTON, YOU HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT BY THE ADDRESSES PROVIDED, NEITHER OF THE OPPOSITION HAS STANDING TO CHALLENGE THIS APPEAL RIGHT NOW, AS NEITHER HAS SHOWN ANY SORT OF SPECIAL DAMAGES OR PROXIMITY TO THE SITE THAT WOULD YIELD SPECIAL DAMAGES. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING INVOLVED WITH THIS LAND USE AND THIS SCHOOL FOR 21 YEARS, AND I THINK PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROPERTY THAN ME IS YOU. MR. MAYOR, IN 2009. THIS IS THE COMPILATION OF REGULATIONS, STUDIES, LETTERS, THINGS THAT WENT INTO THE CONDITIONS THAT WE KNOW TODAY. AND IMPORTANTLY, I WALKED THE FIELDS WITH NANCY LEATHERS WHEN WE WERE COMING UP AND DISCUSSING ABOUT WHAT LIGHTING WOULD BE. WE WEREN'T ON BAKER FIELD, WE WEREN'T ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. WE WERE ON THE FIELDS ACROSS THE STREET AND RESPONDING SPECIFICALLY TO ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED BY NEIGHBORS. SO WHEN WE GET TO THIS CONDITION THAT WE HAVE NOW, THAT STAFF HAS POINTED TO THAT TALKS ABOUT LIGHTING ON ATHLETIC FIELDS BEING LIMITED TO LOW LEVEL SECURITY LIGHTING FOR FOOTPATH ILLUMINATION. ONE IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAMPUS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS FROM A THROUGH. WHAT IS IT? PROBABLY LIKE TRIPLE OR QUADRUPLE Z, DOUBLE P ARE ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THEY ARE TO ADDRESS PERMANENT DEVELOPED STRUCTURES. NOWHERE IN THIS MISSIVE, THIS TOME OF REGULATIONS, DOES IT SAY THAT HOLY INNOCENTS COULD NEVER APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR, EXCUSE ME, A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE BELIEVE THAT STAFF IS READING MORE INTO THESE REGULATIONS THAN IS ACTUALLY THERE, BECAUSE IN FAIRNESS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT. MAYBE IT'S FOR A SENIOR LOCK IN, MAYBE IT'S A HOMECOMING PARADE, MAYBE A MOVIE WANTS TO TO SHOOT SOME SCENES THERE FOR FOR A

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST FOR MAYBE THREE FOUR HOURS AT THE MOST ONE AND DONE. AND THE IDEA THAT THIS CAN NEVER THAT A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT CAN NEVER BE ISSUED FOR THIS PROPERTY OWNER TO ME IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IT GOES AGAINST THE EXPRESS LANGUAGE IN THESE ORDINANCES WHICH DOES NOT PROHIBIT IT, BUT IT ALSO YIELDS THE ABSURD RESULT THAT RATHER THAN TRYING THIS ONCE WITH A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT, THAT THEY'RE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS TO APPLY TO HAVE PERMANENT LIGHTS ALL THE TIME. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR APPROVE THIS APPEAL, ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THREE HOURS OF FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. IT DOES NOT CONTRAVENE THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE ARE NOT REZONING THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I NEED TO CORRECT ONE THING YOU SAID, THOUGH THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW, EVERY CITIZEN OF SANDY SPRINGS HAS STANDING IN THIS BODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR? YES, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE HAVE A PERSON WHO HAS SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD ONLINE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. IT WAS IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS TIME REMAINING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. WAS IT SUBMITTED ON A TIMELY BASIS? HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED TIMELY. I RECEIVED WORD THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED AT 6:03 P.M. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS MENTIONED THERE WAS NO ONE IN OPPOSITION THAT'S RESIDENT. AND I'M ON THE DIRECT LINE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE, ONE MINUTE, ONE MINUTE, ONE MINUTE. AND THE THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR REBUTTAL IF THEY CHOOSE. MY NAME IS KIRK HALPERIN. I LIVE AT 110 NORTH DEVEREAUX COURT. I AM IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO HOLY INNOCENTS LINE. THE ONLY REASON I KNOW HIM HERE, OR WHY I'M HERE, IS BECAUSE I RECEIVED THIS FROM SANDY SPRINGS. WHAT IT SAID IS, ON JULY 3RD, HOLY INNOCENTS PUT IN AN APPLICATION. IT GOT DENIED AGAIN. ON AUGUST 6TH, THEY PUT IN ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT GOT DENIED. THEN THEY BROUGHT IT HERE AT NO TIME PRIOR. SIR, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO. I'M SORRY. YEAH. AND NO TIME PRIOR. DID HOLY INNOCENTS COME AND SAY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS? LET US TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING TO DO. AND HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER, WHETHER THE LIGHTS ARE A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA, I DON'T KNOW. WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR THIS COUNCIL IS DO YOU ENCOURAGE ACTIVITY THAT HAS THE INSTITUTIONAL RESIDENTS WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS SO THAT WE COME TOGETHER, THEY THEY PUT THIS TRACK ON BACK IN JULY. THEY HADN'T SPOKEN TO US. YOU ALL KNOW KNEW MY ADDRESS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST WITH HOLY INNOCENTS. THEY KNOW I'M ON THE DIRECT LINE. THEY KNOW MY NEIGHBORS ARE ON THE DIRECT LINE. I WOULD HAVE WELCOMED AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. NOW, THE QUESTION IS, IS I NEED YOU TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP, WRAPPING IT UP REAL QUICK FOR THE COUNCIL. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE HOLY INNOCENTS OR OTHER INSTITUTIONAL RESIDENTS TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST AND SEE WHAT CAN BE WORKED OUT BEFORE COMING ON A THIRD APPEAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DOES THE APPLICANT WISH ANY REBUTTAL? YES. I'LL BE BRIEF. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT AS A SCHOOL, WE DID REACH OUT TO KIND OF LEADERSHIP OF THE HOA. CHUCK CONNORS, MARISSA CONNORS, WHO ARE BOTH KIND OF HIGH PARENTS AND HAVE LEADERSHIP ROLES AT THE HOA IN, YOU KNOW, DEVEREUX AND HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT OUR PLANS WERE AND WHAT THE IMPACT MAY BE.

SO THAT'S HOW WE REACHED OUT THROUGH HOA LEADERSHIP, NOT TO INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORS, BUT WANTED THAT JUST TO BE NOTED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER. YOU'VE HEARD THE TESTIMONY. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR PAUL? MR. BOWMAN, I MOVE IN REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM 2020 5-1 97 THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OVERRIDE THE CITY MANAGER'S DECISION, DENYING A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AND ALLOW HOLY INNOCENTS TO USE LIGHTS FOR THEIR HOMECOMING FOOTBALL GAME ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 3RD.

HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BOWMAN. IS THERE A SECOND MOTION BY MR. BOWMAN, SECONDED BY MISS ROCHELLE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. BOWMAN? THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR

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MISS ROCHELLE, THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST.

FIRST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO NEGOTIATING THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR HOLY INNOCENTS. I RESPECT THE PROCESS, THE NEIGHBORS WHO PARTICIPATED, AND THE PROTECTIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PRESERVE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT SAID, WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER TONIGHT IS NOT A PERMANENT CHANGE TO THE CEP. IT IS A NARROWLY TAILORED ONE NIGHT REQUEST FOR TEMPORARY LIGHTS SO THAT HOLY INNOCENTS CAN CELEBRATE HOMECOMING ON THEIR OWN FIELD. I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE WHAT FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AND FEEL LIKE IN PRACTICE, REAL EXPERIENCE IS FAR MORE VALUABLE THAN SPECULATION, AND IT WILL INFORM ANY LONGER TERM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LIGHTS IN THE FUTURE. I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I DON'T LIVE NEXT TO HOLINESS LIKE I DID AT MOUNT VERNON, SO I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL THE DIRECT IMPACT. BUT I DO REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AND I BELIEVE THIS ONE NIGHT PERMIT STRIKES A FAIR BALANCE. IT ALLOWS A MILESTONE CELEBRATION FOR THE SCHOOL WHILE ENSURING THE COMMUNITY AND THIS COUNCIL CAN SEE FIRSTHAND HOW THE EVENT WORKS. AT THE HEART OF THIS DECISION IS COMMUNITY SPIRIT, FAIRNESS AND GIVING STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE AN IMPORTANT TRADITION SAFELY ON THEIR HOME FIELD. FOR THAT REASON, I AM IN FAVOR. OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MR. PAULSON? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WORKING THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK WE'VE EVER HAD ONE OF THESE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. SO THIS IS KIND OF NEW TERRITORY. ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND INTERESTING IS THE SCHOOL DID REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL FOLKS. SOUND LIKE THEY REACH OUT TO THE HOA. MR. BARTON, A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT DID THE HOA SAY TO YOU WHEN YOU TALKED TO THEM? IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE? YEAH, YEAH. COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT AND THEY WOULD ASK NEIGHBORS AROUND AND THEY SORT OF PULLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAID SOME ARE IN FAVOR, MOST ARE IN FAVOR, SOME ARE NOT.

AND THEN OTHERS, YOU KNOW, DON'T REALLY HAVE STRONG FEELINGS EITHER WAY. WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PUT UP AGAINST US, THAT WAS THE

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I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, MR. DEGIULIO. THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF A TRICKY ONE. ON ONE HAND, WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE CITY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD PARAMOUNT WAS TO PROTECT OUR PROTECTED NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO SEE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A DEGRADATION OF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH WE WHICH WE HAVE TREASURED SO MUCH IN THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS FOR THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, WHICH IS OVER 40 YEARS. ON THE OTHER HAND, I'VE ALWAYS MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF OF KIDS AND SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES. AND SO AT HOLY INNOCENTS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMBINATION OF ALL THREE OF THEM THERE. AND AS COUNCILMAN PAULSON SAID, WE'VE GOT AN UNUSUAL SITUATION HERE WHERE THE BOTH SIDES HAVE ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER AND AND HAVE COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF A TRIAL. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE. BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRESENT. AS OUR YOUNG MAN SAID, THIS IS HIS SENIOR YEAR. HE ONLY GETS ONE SHOT AT THAT. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK, I THINK IT'S PROPER FOR US AT THIS POINT TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THIS AS A AS A TRIAL. AND IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE IT BECOMES UNTENABLE FOR THE SYNAGOGUE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS, ETC. THEN WE WOULD KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE WE HAVE TO BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK FOR A ONE TIME DEAL AS ONE OF OUR, I GUESS, WAS AN ATTORNEY, I DON'T SEE WHERE SHE IS. SHE'S BACK THERE SOMEPLACE AS OUR AS THEIR ATTORNEY SAID, IT'S FOR THREE HOURS. AND SO AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE SIX DAYS. BUT IF YOU CAN DO THE THREE HOURS, I THINK I THINK THAT THE WORST OF THINGS WE CAN LIVE WITH FOR THREE HOURS. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS AND, AND SEE HOW IT WORKS, MISS MUELLER. SO I DIDN'T VIEW THIS AS A TRIAL RUN. I VIEWED THIS AS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT. THAT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT WAS AGREED IN THE PAST, AGREED TO BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AGREED TO BY THE SCHOOL AND PRIOR COUNCIL. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE JURISDICTION, IF YOU WILL, TO MAKE A CHANGE FOR THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS WAS PRESENTED AS A TRIAL RUN, AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PRESENTED AS A TRIAL RUN. AND I THINK IT'S VERY DANGEROUS TO START SAYING, THAT'S OKAY, JUST ONE TIME. I DON'T KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES. DOWNSTREAM CONSEQUENCES ALWAYS EXIST FOR EVERY ORDINANCE. BUT IF YOU START ALLOWING THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S NEXT. AND THAT GIVES ME PAUSE. AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT LIGHTS IN THE SCHOOL AND HOW PEOPLE FEEL, BUT IT'S IT'S KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE LINE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE USING THIS AS A TRIAL RUN. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING AGAINST WHAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY STOOD UP FOR. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE HOA AND WHY THE RESIDENT DIDN'T GET COMMUNICATION. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL NEED TO WORK ON THERE. MR. PAULSON IS RIGHT. WE DO ASK PEOPLE TO WORK TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH I THINK IN THIS CASE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD THING TO HAVE NOT JUST SEND THE COMMUNICATION OUT, BUT ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING AND SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT AND INVITE THE RESIDENTS. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT LEVEL WAS DONE. SO AT THIS TIME, I

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WHAT MAKES THIS EVENT A SPECIAL EVENT TO EVEN APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EVENT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE GATHERING AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS TO THE ROADS AND THE USE OF PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL FOR SECURITY. OKAY, SO EVEN IF THE LIGHTS WERE OFF THE TABLE, WE WOULD THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A AND THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT IT THIS YEAR? AND COUNCILMAN PAULSON IS CORRECT. THIS IS THE VERY FIRST APPEAL OF A DENIAL OF A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT THAT I CAN RECALL IN MY MANY YEARS WITH THE CITY, AND KRISTEN IS NOT AWARE OF ANY FOR THE YEARS THAT I WAS NOT HERE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD THAT. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION. HYPOTHETICAL. SO IF SOMEONE AN ENTITY APPLIES FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AND THEY DON'T MEET THE BASIC CRITERIA FOR SPECIAL EVENT, IS THAT CONSIDERED A DENIAL THAT CAN BE APPEALED. NO STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THEM AND EXPLAIN IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE 500 ATTENDEES. IF ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS AND ALL OF THIS IS SPELLED OUT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT WOULDN'T BE AN APPEALABLE DENIAL, IF YOU WILL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, I HAVE A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. BEFORE WE VOTE, STATE YOUR INQUIRY. SO JUST TO CONFIRM, WE'VE HAD THIS COME UP A FEW TIMES. IF THIS BODY WERE TO BE TIED 3 TO 3, THE MAYOR WOULD VOTE YES OR NO. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF THE VOTE IS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THAT WE ADOPT SOMETHING, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE A VETO, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, I'M READY. ABOUT READY TO CLOSE THE DEBATE.

LET ME JUST SAY THIS. HOLY INNOCENCE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR. PARDON? I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. I WANTED TO ADD ONE, ONE COMMENT THAT RELATES TO WHAT DOCTOR KELLY WAS ASKING CITY MANAGER ABOUT. THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS APPLICATION IS THAT IT SEEKS TO DO SOMETHING, THAT THERE IS A ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS, AND MANY TIMES WHEN AN ISSUE LIKE THAT COMES TO THE THIS BODY, THIS BODY, IF THEY VOTED FOR IT, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE TANTAMOUNT TO A REPEAL OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THE STAFF USED TO SAY, WE CAN'T ALLOW IT BECAUSE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE AGAINST IT. THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS SITUATION IS THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT STAFF SAID, PROHIBITS THIS, AND THEREFORE THEY DON'T DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO GRANT. IT IS A ZONING ORDINANCE. AND AS ALL OF YOU MAY KNOW, YOUR ABILITY TO REPEAL ZONING ORDINANCES IS LIMITED LEGISLATIVELY BECAUSE OF THE ZONING PROCEDURES ACT, WHICH REQUIRES CERTAIN NOTICES TO THE PUBLIC. AND WHEN THIS CAME UP WITH WITH GREAT SHOWING, GREAT RESPONSIBILITY BY THE STAFF, WHEN THE APPEAL CAME TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL, STAFF SENT NOTICES OUT AS THEY WOULD A ZONING ISSUE. SO THAT NOTICE REQUIRED BY OUR ORDINANCE TO GIVE NOTICE HAS BEEN COMPLETED. I WOULD POINT THAT OUT TO THE COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. HOLY INNOCENCE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU DID SOMETHING THAT THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT WHO SHOWED UP HERE LOOKING FOR ILLUMINATION IN THE EVENINGS DIDN'T DO YOU AT LEAST TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? AND THAT PROCESS LED TO. THAT PROCESS LED TO A. IF NOT UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT, AT LEAST A CONSENSUS IN YOUR FAVOR. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THAT'S ALL WE'VE EVER ASKED IS THIS IS A COMMUNITY OF NEIGHBORS. SO WE WANT YOU TO ENGAGE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND COME OUT AND AND YOU'VE DONE THAT MAYBE NOT PERFECTLY BUT SUBSTANTIALLY.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE'VE EVER ASKED OF ANYBODY WHO COMES BEFORE US TO TRY AND REACH CONSENSUS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE YOU ASK US TO BE THE JUDGE. SO FOR THAT, I SALUTE YOU. AND I AGREE WITH MISS MUELLER. I DON'T SEE THIS AS, AS AS A TRIAL, AS A TEST, BUT IT WILL GIVE DATA TO COUNSEL SHOULD ANYTHING COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE THAT IT CAN RELY ON TO SOME DEGREE, ABOUT THE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREAS. SO FOR THAT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT MAY BE USEFUL. SO SO, MR. BAUMAN, I WILL NOT BE USING MY VETO POWER OVER THIS IF IT IS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH, BASED ON THE NOSE COUNTS I'VE JUST DONE, WOULD APPEAR ALMOST CERTAIN TO ME. THEN I'LL SIGN IT. SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE

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THE ITEM IS APPROVED. CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM 2025198.

CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR J-B. WELD COMPANY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7840 ROSWELL ROAD BUILDING, 100 SANDY SPRINGS, GEORGIA 30350. THIS IS PRESENTED BY DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHRIS BURNETT. MR. BURNETT. MR. BURNETT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT IS GOOD TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT WITH A ANOTHER WIN FOR SANDY SPRINGS RELATED TO A BUSINESS RELOCATION. ANY OF YOU WHO WORK WITH WOODWORKING, EPOXY PUTTIES, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE NAME JB WELD. IT'S A PRODUCT THAT'S BEEN AROUND, I BELIEVE, SINCE 1969 WHEN THE COMPANY STARTED.

SO 56 YEARS AGO. AND YOU'LL FIND THIS PRODUCT IN HOME DEPOT, ACE HARDWARE, LOWE'S AND MANY OTHER STORES. THE COMPANY IS CURRENTLY HEADQUARTERED IN MARIETTA AND HAS CURRENTLY HAS A BUILDING UNDER CONTRACT UP IN DOCTOR KELLY'S REGION. IT'S THE 100 BUILDING WHICH IS IN MORGAN FALLS. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS AS ONE OF THE FORMER NEWELL RUBBERMAID OFFICES. NEWELL MOVED OUT OF THIS BUILDING AND LEFT IT ABOUT 6% OCCUPIED. SO THE CURRENT BUILDING IS ABOUT 94% VACANT. SO JB WELD, THROUGH A SUBSIDIARY ENTITY CALLED BROWNTROUT DEVELOPMENT TO LLC, HAS A PURCHASE CONTRACT ON THIS BUILDING AND WILL BE INVESTING INITIALLY TO BUILD OUT AND RETROFIT THE FIRST FLOOR TO BE THE HEADQUARTERS OF JB WELD COMPANY. IT'S ABOUT 22,000FT■!SN THE FIRST PHASE TO HOUSE THEIR COMPANY. THEN THEY WILL ALSO BE BRINGING IN OTHER TENANTS TO THE BUILDING ON THE FLOORS, SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS, AND MAY ALSO EXPAND THEMSELVES AS THEIR BUSINESS CONTINUES TO GROW. THEY DID FILE AN APPLICATION WITH US FOR AN INCENTIVE PACKAGE. THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TIER TWO PACKAGE BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF THEIR INVESTMENT. THEY'RE INVESTING ABOUT $6.6 MILLION IN THIS BUILDING BETWEEN THEIR PURCHASE PRICE PLUS RENOVATIONS AND FFA. TO HOUSE THE HEADQUARTERS OF JB WELD.

THEY'RE ALSO INITIALLY CREATING 23 JOBS. AVERAGE SALARY OF THOSE JOBS IS 175,000. THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR TIER TWO AS WELL. SO WHAT TIER TWO QUALIFIES THEM FOR IS A TWO YEAR WAIVER OF BUSINESS AND OCCUPATIONAL TAXES, WHICH IS 74 $57,450 A YEAR TIMES TWO, SO 14,900. AND ALSO THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A WAIVER OF BUILDING PERMIT FEES. AND THERE'S REALLY TWO PHASES HERE. ONE WOULD BE THE INITIAL PHASE TO BUILD OUT THE JB WELD HEADQUARTERS AND THEN ADDITIONAL BUILD OUTS FOR OTHER TENANTS OR USERS IN THE BUILDING. AND SO IN TOTAL, IT'S ABOUT I APOLOGIZE, IT'S ABOUT 30. CAN YOU SCROLL UP JUST A BIT SO I CAN LOOK AT IT. LOOK AT THE TOTAL $37,900 WOULD BE THE TOTAL REQUESTED INCENTIVES FOR JB WELD AND THEIR RELATED ENTITY, BROWN TROUT TO DEVELOPMENT, LLC. WE DO HAVE THE CEO, CHIP HANSON, WITH US TONIGHT. AND BRAD PETERSON, THE CFO, IS WITH US AS WELL FROM JB WELD. AND THEY ARE, I THINK, EXCITED TO. I DID NOT ASK THEM TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE EXCITED TO BE MOVING THEIR HEADQUARTERS HERE. AFTER MANY YEARS IN A SMALLER BUILDING IN MARIETTA. AND WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE THEM HERE, ESPECIALLY COMING IN TO THE NORTH END OF OUR DISTRICT. AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE FILLING UP A BUILDING THAT IS 94% VACANT.

THAT'S A BIG WIN IN THIS OFFICE ENVIRONMENT. SO WITH ALL THAT, I WILL CLOSE MY COMMENTS AND

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ALL RIGHT. JUST TO NOTE, THE JB WELD FOLKS, IF YOU WANT TO REBUT ANYTHING YOU HEAR, YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. MR. MR. GRIFFITH. I'M STILL BILL GRIFFITH. SOMETIMES.

REGRETTABLY. I MAY LIVE ON THE MOST DANGEROUS STREET IN IN THE CITY, IF NOT THE MOST DANGEROUS.

SURELY IT'S ON THE SHORT LIST. I LIVE AT 9580 ROBERTS DRIVE. Y'ALL HEARD ME TALK ABOUT ROBERTS DRIVE BEFORE. MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN. I SAID EARLIER THAT I HADN'T PLANNED TO SPEAK ANYMORE, BUT THERE WERE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT GOT MY ATTENTION. I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THEM. THIS IS THE SECOND ONE REGARDING THE PROPOSAL TO GRANT ALMOST $38,000 OF TAX INCENTIVE TO JB WELD COMPANY. THAT COMPANY IS LOCATED JUST ACROSS THE RIVER ABOUT FOUR MILES FROM HERE. MY COMMENT, PER THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE, THAT COMPANY APPEARS TO HAVE HAD ITS GEORGIA BUSINESS LICENSE REVOKED TWO YEARS AGO.

IF ITS LICENSE HAS BEEN REVOKED, WHY GIVE A TAX BREAK TO A COMPANY THAT FAILS TO FOLLOW THE LAW? FURTHERMORE, I DON'T SEE ANY MENTION. OF THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY OFFERING TAX INCENTIVES. I'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT FILLING UP THE NEAR VACANT OFFICE BUILDING. I'M NOT REAL SURE HOW THAT BENEFITS THE CITY. I'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT 223 JOBS COMING OVER HERE.

WELL, THOSE JOBS ARE FOUR MILES AWAY RIGHT NOW. NOT SURE HOW MOVING THOSE JOBS OVER HERE BENEFITS THE CITY, BUT I DO HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW 37, $38,000 IN TAX BENEFITS AFFECTS THE CITIZENS. I HADN'T SEEN THOSE BENEFITS. IF I WAS SITTING IN YOUR SEAT, I'D WANT TO SEE THEM.

I HADN'T SEEN THEM. I HADN'T HEARD THEM. I'D VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. ANY ANY COMMENTS BY THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS CHIP HANSON. I'M CHAIRMAN, CEO AND MAJORITY OWNER OF JB WELD. I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF WITH RESPECT TO HIS SPECIFIC THINGS. WE ARE NOT. ILLEGAL IN TERMS OF A BUSINESS LICENSE. HE MUST HAVE CONFUSED DATA WITH SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT HAS A RELATED NAME, OR MAYBE A PREVIOUSLY RELATED ENTITY THAT IS ON THE PUBLIC RECORD, SO THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. SECOND, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE THE COMPANY WITH FOLKS, AND WE STARTED THIS IN THE GEORGIA AREA WITH ONE PERSON, ME, IN MY BASEMENT SOME 15 YEARS AGO. WE GREW TO A POINT WHERE WE RENTED AN OFFICE CONDO IN MARIETTA, FIRST WITH TWO, THEN WITH FOUR, THEN WITH TEN, THEN WITH 15, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, PEOPLE TO THE POINT WHERE WE SAID, GEE, WE NEED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN A MORE LONGER TERM APPROPRIATE SPACE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S EVOLVED HERE. WE'VE GROWN THE BUSINESS FROM THE ORIGINAL 16 PEOPLE, OF WHICH NONE WERE HERE IN GEORGIA, TO THE CURRENT 150 PEOPLE, OF WHICH SOME 30 PLUS ARE RESIDENTS HERE IN GEORGIA. AND I INTEND TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GROW. SO OUR MOVE IS NOT WE'RE JUMPING OVER HERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME INCENTIVE RELATIVE TO WHATEVER THE INCENTIVES ARE THERE. WE NEED THEM. WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN A VERY LARGE AND COMPETITIVE MARKETPLACE. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT PERSPECTIVE. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR PAUL DOCTOR KELLY, I MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 2025-198, APPROVAL OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR JB WELD COMPANY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7840 ROSWELL ROAD BUILDING, 100 SANDY SPRINGS, GEORGIA 30350.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY DOCTOR KELLY. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION BY DOCTOR KELLY, SECONDED BY MR. PAULSON, THAT WE APPROVE? AGENDA ITEM 2025 198. A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR JB WELD COMPANY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7840

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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BUT BUT FOR THE PERMITTING IT IS THE TENANTS BUILD OUT THAT'S CONSIDERED AS WELL. WELL, WE DO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY TWO PHASES HERE. FIRST WOULD BE THE INITIAL BUILD OUT OF THE JB WELL PORTION OF THEIR HEADQUARTERS, AND THEN THE BUILD OUT OF OTHER SECTION OF THE SECTIONS OF THE BUILDING. WE REALLY LOOK AT AT AT THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT. DIFFICULT TO SAY WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. JB WELD CAN CAN ESTIMATE PRETTY CLOSELY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THEY WILL BRING, BUT HOW MANY OTHER EMPLOYEES WILL COME AS A RESULT OF OF ADDITIONAL COMPANIES MOVING IN? YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS SPECIALLY WAS SPECIALIZED, DEVELOPED INTERIOR WISE TO NEWELL'S NEEDS AT THAT TIME. SO THERE'S A GOOD BIT OF INTERIOR RENOVATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE. IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY HEFTY INVESTMENT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN ADDITION TO THE PURCHASE PRICE, AT LEAST $1 MILLION IN INTERIOR RENOVATION WORK, PLUS PERHAPS ANOTHER HALF $1 MILLION IN FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR HEADQUARTERS. SO IN ADDITION TO THE $5.1 MILLION PURCHASE PRICE, THEY'VE GOT 1,000,005, AN ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL COST. AND ALL OF THAT WILL GO INTO SORT OF A PACKAGE THAT DOES INDEED CONTRIBUTE TO THE TAX BASE OF SANDY SPRINGS, BECAUSE IT KEEPS OUR BUILDING VALUES HIGHER THAN THEY WOULD NORMALLY BE. NOT TO BELABOR HOW BUILDING VALUES ARE DETERMINED, BUT OFTENTIMES THEY'RE BASED ON A MULTIPLE OF CASH FLOW. AND IF THERE'S NOT MUCH CASH FLOW IN A BUILDING, THAT THAT BUILDING VALUE IS GOING TO BE MUCH LESS THAN IF IT'S A FULL BUILDING THAT'S GENERATING VERY STRONG NET OPERATING INCOME. SO HIGHER TAX VALUES ABSOLUTELY BENEFIT THE TAXPAYERS OF SANDY SPRINGS, PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE GOING TO OUR RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE SHOPPING IN OUR RETAIL STORES. THEY PERHAPS ARE BUYING HOMES OR LEASING LEASING HOMES OR APARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALL OF THAT'S A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE REASON WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE AND WHY WE OFFER THESE INCENTIVES WHEN WE BELIEVE, LIKE WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A COMPANY IS MAKING A LONG TERM COMMITMENT. AND I LOVE IT WHEN COMPANIES BUY BUILDINGS VERSUS LEASE BUILDINGS, LEASES EXPIRE. BUT WHEN YOU OWN THAT BUILDING, YOUR ROOTS ARE MUCH DEEPER IN THE GROUND. WHICH MAKES ME FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT JB WELL, COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY, THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. SHELL. YOU MAY HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS. THEY HAVE 23 EMPLOYEES AND IT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO ADD 2 OR 3 A YEAR. BUT THE 23 EMPLOYEES ARE COMING FROM MARIETTA OVER TO SANDY SPRINGS. RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT NEW EMPLOYEES. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE RELOCATING. AND THAT IS A PREMISE OF OUR INCENTIVE PACKAGE, IS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BRAND NEW EMPLOYEES TO THE COMPANY. IT'S JUST BRAND NEW EMPLOYEES TO SANDY SPRINGS. SO THEY ARE MOVING INTO OUR COMMUNITY FROM ANOTHER COMMUNITY VERY MUCH LIKE NEWELL.

OR YOU REMEMBER ASBURY. ASBURY MOVED THEIR EMPLOYEES FROM GWINNETT COUNTY. THEY WERE ALREADY HERE IN ATLANTA, BUT THEY MOVED THOSE PEOPLE HERE TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THEY ARE NEW WORKERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WORKING, LIVING AND SPENDING MONEY HERE LOCALLY, WHICH THEY WERE NOT BEFORE WHEN THEY WERE IN GWINNETT OR IN THIS CASE, IN COBB COUNTY.

THANKS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MR. BURNETTE, LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. YES, SIR.

WHEREAS YOU WERE ASKING FOR, WHAT, $37,000 INCENTIVES, ROUGHLY 38,000. I MEAN, THIS IS PROBABLY AN UNFAIR QUESTION, BUT IT'D BE A GOOD ESTIMATE. HOW MUCH MORE WILL THE TAX VALUE OF THAT BUILDING BE IF IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED COMPARED TO WHERE IT IS NOW? IN OTHER WORDS, HOW QUICKLY WOULD WE RECRUIT THAT $38,000 IF THEY'RE THERE WORKING AND PROVIDING JOBS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD NEED TO RUN SOME CALCULATIONS. I KNEW THAT, BUT BUT THE POINT I GUESS MY POINT IS WE'LL RECOUP THAT MONEY MANY TIMES OVER DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR OCCUPATION OF THAT BUILDING. CORRECT? YES, SIR. I DO BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. THE QUESTIONS ON AGENDA ITEM 2025 198. A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PACKAGE FOR JB WELD COMPANY FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7840 ROSWELL ROAD. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THE CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 2025199. THIS IS A BILL NUMBER 27703 CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL

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6331 ROSWELL ROAD, SANDY SPRINGS, GEORGIA 30328. THE APPLICANT, MEGAN RAMSEY, HAS MET ALL REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. PERIOD. WHAT'S THE DESIRED COUNCIL? MAYOR PAUL. MISS ROCHELLE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 25 2020 5-199 AN APPROVAL OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR J.R. SPACE MANAGEMENT. READY, SET. FUN AT 6331 ROSWELL ROAD. HAVE A MOTION BY MISS ROCHELLE. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION BY MISS ROCHELLE, SECONDED BY MISS MUELLER THAT WE APPROVE? AGENDA ITEM 2025 199 AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR J.R. SPACE MANAGEMENT AT 6331 ROSWELL ROAD. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS ON AGENDA ITEM 2025 199. THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR J.R. SPACE MANAGEMENT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE. OPPOSED? NO. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THE CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 2025200. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR SHELL 50 700 INC. DOING BUSINESS AS SHELL FOOD MART, 5700 ROSWELL ROAD, SANDY SPRINGS, GEORGIA 30342. THE APPLICANT IS TERRACE ZAINAB BEER FOR PACKAGED BEER AND WINE.

THIS IS ALSO PRESENTED BY REVENUE MANAGER COREY HOLINESS. MISS HOLINESS, THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ALCOHOL LICENSE FOR DISTRICT SIX. THIS IS A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP FOR RETAIL PACKAGE AND WINE. MALT BEVERAGE. SHELL 5700 INC 57 ROSWELL ROAD, SANDY SPRINGS, GEORGIA 30342. THE APPLICANT, TEREZ ZENEBE BE. HE HAS MET ALL REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? NO. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE REVENUE MANAGER. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR PAUL? MR. BOWMAN, I MOVE ADOPTION OF AGENDA ITEM 2020 5-2 HUNDRED ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE FOR SHELL 7500, INC. 5700 ROSWELL ROAD. MOTION BY MR. BOWMAN. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY MR. BOWMAN, SECONDED BY MISS ROCHELLE, THAT WE APPROVE? AGENDA ITEM 2025 200, AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR SHELL 5700 INC, DOING BUSINESS AS SHELL FOOD MART AT 5700 ROSWELL ROAD. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION.

THE QUESTION IS ON AGENDA ITEM 2025 200, THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR SHELL 5700, INC. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO. THE ITEM IS

[IX. New Business ]

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BUT BECAUSE OF THE COST THESE DAYS OF WINE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEIR ENTREES ARE 15 TO $18 AND MANY OF THEIR GLASSES OF WINE ARE 15 TO $18. SO AS WE RAN THE MATH, WE SAID, YOU KNOW, TWO GLASSES OF WINE IN A MEAL AND YOU'VE GOT 65% OF YOUR BILL IS IN ALCOHOL VERSUS FOOD. SO THE 50 OVER 50 SPLIT JUST MAY NOT WORK WELL FOR A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THESE DAYS, BUT CERTAINLY ONE THAT'S A WINE SPECIALTY BOUTIQUE SHOP LIKE TASTE IS I THINK IT IS A IT'S DEFINITELY A, IN MY OPINION, SOMEBODY WE WANT TO HAVE HERE IN CITY SPRINGS. IT FITS WELL WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HIGH QUALITY, ENJOYABLE FUN FOR ALL AGES, SO TO SPEAK, ABOVE THE AGE OF 21. NOW THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE BOTH A POURING LICENSE BECAUSE THEY DO OBVIOUSLY POUR AND SERVE ON SITE AND THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PACKAGE LICENSE AS WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE LEAVING PREMISES WITH WITH MAYBE A SIX PACK OF BEER THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED THERE IN THE MARKET, OR A BOTTLE OF WINE THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED, NOT UNLIKE RESTAURANTS. WHEN YOU GO AND YOU OPEN A BOTTLE OF WINE AND PERHAPS YOU DRINK HALF OF IT, YOU CORK THE OTHER HALF AND YOU TAKE IT HOME WITH YOU SIMILAR TO THAT. SO WE THINK IT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO DO THAT HERE IN CITY SPRINGS AND NOT JUST RELATED TO TASTE, BUT ALSO AS WE LOOK AT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN CITY SPRINGS, 2.0 CRAFT BREWERIES AND MICROBREW PUBS COME TO MIND AS OTHER USES THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE. OKAY, YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR PAUL? MR. PAULSON, I MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 2025 201. ORDINANCE TO AMEND SUBPART A, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION 76-1 77 THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS CODE OF ORDINANCE TO ADD A SPECIFIC ALCOHOL SLASH FOOD SALES RATIO FOR CONSUMPTION ON THE PREMISES.

ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN SANDY SPRINGS, WHICH ONLY SELL FOOD, WINE AND MALT BEVERAGES TO PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. YOU HAVE A MOTION BY MR. PAULSON.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY MR. PAULSON, SECONDED BY MISS MUELLER, THAT WE APPROVE? AGENDA ITEM 2025 201, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBPART A, CHAPTER SIX OF ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION SEVEN, PARAGRAPH 6177 OF THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS. CODE OF ORDINANCES. ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PAUL, MR. PAULSON, DURING THE WORK SESSION, I ESTABLISHED THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE THE SITUATION WHERE THE PAULSON FAMILY, IT JUST HAPPENED THE OTHER NIGHT AS WELL. SO I GET IT. THIS IS NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR RESTAURANT. THEY HAPPEN TO BE THE ONE THAT'S APPLYING THAT'S CAUSING THIS CHANGE. BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT THIS IS APPLICABLE TO IN THE CITY SPRINGS DISTRICT GOING FORWARD. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. IN FACT, IT'S REALLY IT WAS TASTE THAT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND NOT TO GET TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS, BUT IN OUR ORIGINAL LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE DID WHEN CITY SPRINGS WAS, WAS OPEN. AND IT WAS WITH SEELIG WHO WAS MANAGING THE RETAIL AT THAT TIME. WE ACTUALLY HAD THE 5050 ORDINANCE THERE AND IT'S IN THE LEASE. AND SO WHEN TASTE WAS REVIEWING THE LEASE, THEY PICKED UP ON THAT AND THEY SAID, WAIT A SECOND. BASED ON OUR BUSINESS MODEL, WE CAN'T COMMIT THAT. WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE 5050 FOOD AND ALCOHOL SALES. AND SO THEY BROUGHT WE WE WENT BACK AND FORTH, TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY LIVE WITH 65, 35 BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN US. BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, COUNCILMAN. IT WOULD BE FOR ANY OTHER RESTAURANT OF A SIMILAR TYPE WITHIN THE DISTRICT WITH BEER AND WINE ONLY. THAT COULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS ON AGENDA ITEM 2025 201, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBPART A, CHAPTER SIX, ARTICLE TWO, DIVISION SEVEN, PARAGRAPH 6177 OF THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS CODE OF ORDINANCES. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THE CLERK WILL PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 2025202. THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG NORTH ISLAND FERRY ROAD TAX PARCEL NUMBERS 060365 LL 0049060365, LL 0098 AND 060365 LL 0080 TO THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND TO EXPAND THE CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER NATIONAL RECREATION AREA. THIS IS

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL. EXCUSE ME. IN 2020, THE CITY PURCHASED THREE PARCELS TOTALING 14 ACRES ON NORTH ISLAND FERRY ROAD AT A COST OF $2 MILLION. THE PROPERTIES WERE PURCHASED WITH IMPACT FEE FUNDS TO EXPAND THE CITY'S GREENSPACE NETWORK, INCREASE ACCESS TO THE RIVER, AND EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER NATIONAL RECREATION AREA ALLEN FORD UNIT. SINCE THAT TIME, THE CITY WAS APPROACHED BY THE CRNA SUPERINTENDENT AND HONIES, WHO APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING HERE TONIGHT ABOUT SELLING THE PROPERTIES TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. STAFF FEEL THAT THE SALE OF THESE PROPERTIES TO NPS ACCOMPLISHES THE ORIGINAL GOALS OF PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE RIVER. AN APPRAISAL OF $2.6 MILLION HAS BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE TWO PARCELS. I'M SORRY FOR THE THREE PARCELS, WHICH IS WHICH WILL MORE THAN COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR ITS ORIGINAL INVESTMENT IN NPS CANNOT PURCHASE PROPERTY DIRECTLY FROM THE MUNICIPALITY, SO THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND WILL BE A KEY PARTNER IN THE TRANSACTION. THE CITY WILL SELL THE LAND TO TPL, WHO WILL IN TURN SELL THE LAND TO NPS. IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALE, THE FUNDS WILL BE REIMBURSED BACK INTO THE IMPACT FEE FUND TO BE USED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION AND PARKS. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR PAUL? MR. PAULSON I MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 2025 202 RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG NORTH ISLAND FERRY ROAD.

PARCEL NUMBER 060365, LL 0049 AND 0603650098 AND 06036500080 TO THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND TO EXPAND THE CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVER NATIONAL RECREATION AREA. MOTION BY MR. PAULSON IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY MR. PAULSON, SECONDED BY MR. DEGIULIO, THAT WE APPROVE? AGENDA ITEM 2025 202 APPROVING THE AN OPTION AGREEMENT FOR THE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ALONG NORTH ISLAND FERRY ROAD WITH ALL THE RELATED TAX PARCEL NUMBERS TO THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND. ANY DISCUSSION, MR. PAULSON? THANK YOU. BRETT. SO I WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS ACTUALLY EVEN BEFORE 2020. WE WERE TRYING TO ACQUIRE THESE. THIS WAS, AS I CALL IT, IT WAS A PROTECTIVE BUY. THESE HOUSES WERE FOR SALE. THEY HAVE RIVERFRONT PROPERTY, WHICH THEY'RE NOT A LOT OF RIVERFRONT PROPERTY FOR SALE. THE IDEA WAS THE CITY TO BUY IT, WHICH MEANT IT KEPT IT, KEPT IT FROM GOING TO A DEVELOPER. THE IDEA WAS EVENTUALLY THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE MORE PARCEL YET TO GO, BUT THOSE FOLKS ARE STILL LIVING THERE. THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO EXPAND THE PARK TO TO GO ALONG THE RIVER GOING NORTH, AND EVENTUALLY WITH THE LAST PARCEL.

WHEN IT FINALLY COMES, THIS WILL EXPAND CHATTAHOOCHEE NATIONAL RECREATION NORTH TO CONNECT UP TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, WHICH OWNS A WHOLE STRETCH OF RIVERFRONT PROPERTY.

FROM THERE, ALL THE WAY UP AROUND UNDERNEATH THE GEORGIA 400. SO IT WAS A PROTECTIVE BUY.

I'M GLAD WE DID IT. THIS IS THE OUTCOME WE WERE ALL HOPING FOR. I'M GLAD IT CAME TOGETHER. I GOT A QUICK QUESTION HERE. WE TOOK 2 MILLION OUT OF IMPACT FUND FEES TO BUY THIS. SO ARE WE REIMBURSING THE IMPACT FEES, THE 2 MILLION BUCKS? AND IF SO, WHERE'S THE OTHER 400,000? GO.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I DON'T GET IT. I KNOW THAT I'M JUST ASKING. I KNOW YOU DON'T GET IT. I DON'T GET IT. FRANKLY, COUNCILMAN, I THINK YOU ALL COULD GIVE US SOME DIRECTION IF YOU WANT SOME OF THE US TO DIRECTLY REIMBURSE THE EXACT AMOUNT INTO THE IMPACT FEE FUND, AND WE CAN USE THE REST FOR OTHER PROJECTS. YOU ALL CAN REALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS, OR WE CAN ADD IT ALL INTO THE IMPACT FEE FUND AS IT'S CURRENTLY ENVISIONED. WE'RE JUST KIND OF DUMPING ALL OF THIS MONEY INTO THE IMPACT FEE FUND. SO I GUESS MY MY DESIRE HERE, REIMBURSE THE $2 MILLION AND THEN PUT THE $400,000 ASIDE AND USE IT FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE PROTECTIVE BUYS GOING FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT'S THE IDEA. RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN THE IMPACT FEE FUND ACCOUNT, WHICH LIMITS IT. WHAT'S THAT CONTRACT SAY? IT'S 2.6 OR 2 POINT. SORRY, THE 200 AND ANOTHER 200,000. BUT MY POINT IS I'M GOOD WITH REIMBURSING. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. I'M GOOD WITH REIMBURSING THE IMPACT FEE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE TOOK OUT OF THERE. BUT LET'S PUT THE EXTRA 600,000 AND USE IT TOWARDS FUTURE TYPES OF PURCHASES LIKE THIS. SO THAT'S MY REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROPRIATE MONEY ONCE WE GET IT IN OUR POCKET. FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, MISS MUELLER. SO, BRANT, IS THERE ANY RISK OF THE PARK NOT BEING ABLE OR HAVING THEIR FUNDING CUT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? AND THEN WOULD IT JUST SIT WITH THE LAND TRUST. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE? WE ARE EXPEDITING

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I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY INVENTED THE WORD BOOTING. ALSO. MAYOR COUNCIL. THIS IS THE IDEA THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN IN WORK SESSION. THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS HAS MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS RECEIVE COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF BOOTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN MOST PARTS OF SANDY SPRINGS. AND WE TOOK A HARD DIVE INTO SOME OF THE DATA RELATED TO VEHICLE AND MOBILIZATION, AND TO THE LAWS RELATED THERE, TOO.

WE FOUND THERE'S A CLASS ACTION SUIT THAT INVOLVES SOME CITIZENS IN SANDY SPRINGS AND FOLKS IN ATLANTA THAT HAS BEEN SETTLED FOR $5 MILLION, RELATED TO A ONE COMPANY, ONE OF THE LARGER PLAYERS IN THE FIELD, FAILING TO POST THE PROPER NOTIFICATIONS, AND MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT PD RECEIVES THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT RECEIVED HAD TO DO WITH THE LACK OF NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC. IT BECAME APPARENT THAT OUR CURRENT SIGNAGE REQUIREMENT OF 18IN BY 12IN IS WOEFULLY TOO SMALL. IT ACTUALLY IS SMALLER THAN THE SIGNS THAT ATLANTA HAS THAT WERE SUIT UPON, AND THE PLAINTIFF WON. SO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IN THIS CHANGE IS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO RAISE THAT BAR SOME TO 48IN BY 36IN, SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT. THE SECOND ITEM HAS TO DO WITH JUST TWEAKING AN EXISTING PART OF THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY. EVERYBODY THAT GETS A PERMIT TO BOOT WITHIN THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS MUST HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. THAT CONTRACT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY. THIS CHANGE WOULD REQUIRE THAT CONTRACT BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY, AND THAT IT CONTAIN THE LOCATION WHERE THE BOOTING WILL BE PERMITTED. STAFF TELLS ME THAT WE HAVE CAPABILITY TO POST THAT, SO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A IN OUR WEBSITE TO SEE WHERE BOOTING IS DONE. IT TAKES CARE OF WHAT I HAVE LEARNED TO BE THE. THE BIGGEST EVIL IN THIS INDUSTRY IS THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY, SOME POOR PLAYERS IN THIS FIELD WILL PUT CAMERAS AT PLACES WHERE FOLKS CAN PARK, SPOT THEM, RUN UP THERE AND PUT A BOOT ON THEM AND NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. THIS ELEMENT, WE BELIEVE, WILL ARM THE CITY WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT SORT OF SHENANIGANS GOING ON SO THAT IT MAKES TWO CHANGES. ONE MAKES THE SIGN BIGGER AND REQUIRES THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BOOTING BE TURNED INTO THE CITY WHEN THE PERMIT IS GAINED. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL MAYOR POWELL? MISS ROCHELLE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 2020 5-203A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SUBPART A, CHAPTER 58, ARTICLE FOUR, 58, 93, 58, 96 OF THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS CODE OF ORDINANCES. A MOTION BY MISS ROCHELLE. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT MR.

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AGENDA ITEM 2025 203, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBPART H, CHAPTER FIVE, ARTICLE FOUR, PARAGRAPH 58 THROUGH 93 AND 58 THROUGH 96 OF THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS CODE OF ORDINANCES. ANY DISCUSSION? MISS ROCHELLE, THIS IS WONDERFUL. ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT STRICTER. AND IT'S GREAT. I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS WHEN I WATCH THESE CARS GET BOOTED AND THESE PEOPLE ARE INNOCENT WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN GIVES THEM A WHEN THEY'VE HAD LIKE JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AND THEY GO BACK TO TRY TO MOVE THEIR CAR AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN BOOTED AND THEY HAVE TO PAY. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS, NOT JUST THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WELL MARKED. WHAT IS THAT ADDRESSED IN HERE? THE NOT IN THE CHANGE, BUT IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES ONE AT EACH ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT. SO AT THE ENTRANCE. SO WHEN YOU JUST WHEN YOU GO IN NOT WHERE YOU PARK. WHERE YOU GO IN ONE OF THE PLACES THAT WE'VE HAD MOST COMPLAINTS IS THE VACANT LOT RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER OF. IT'S ALMOST AT THE CORNER OF MOUNT VERNON AND ROSWELL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN, I'VE SAT IN TRAFFIC AND LOOKED TO THE RIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN AND IT IS TINY FOR MY OLD EYES TO SEE IT, BUT IT IS AT THE ENTRANCE WAY. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S THE THEORY, IS THAT ANYBODY THAT ENTERS THE LOT WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE A MUCH BIGGER SIGN. IS THERE ANY WAY TO ADD ANY KIND OF REQUIREMENT FOR MORE SIGNS? BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S TRAFFIC OR SOMETHING YOU COME IN, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE A SIGN. YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE ISN'T PERFECT. NONE OF THEM ARE. AND MY PROPOSED CHANGES AREN'T PERFECT. THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO LOOK AT. ADDING THAT. ADDING MORE SIGNS. SO WOULD WE DO THAT NOW? IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION, WHICH IS THE WORD WE'VE USED TONIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION. SURE. BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE STANDARDS MIGHT BE, BUT ON A PER SPACE BASIS. SO IF A PARKING LOT HAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS, BUT PER 30 SPACES, PER 20 SPACES PER 50 SPACES, WOULD THAT WOULD THERE BE SOME VALIDITY IN SORT OF DOING IT THAT WAY OR. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO PRECISELY LET ME SUGGEST THIS. SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE MARKINGS. RIGHT. LET ME SUGGEST THIS. I THINK THE INTENT IS VERY GOOD. TRYING TO LEGISLATE THIS ON THE FLY WITHOUT ANY DATA IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. SO WHAT I WOULD ASK STAFF TO DO LIST IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO ENACT THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT, WE WILL ENACT IT AS IT IS AND THEN ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE COULD AMEND THE THE ORDINANCE TO AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER ONCE WE'VE DONE THE ADEQUATE RESEARCH. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MAYOR PAUL? MR. BOWMAN SO FIRST OF ALL IS WE'RE DOING THIS. IS THIS THE RESULT OF THE BILL THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSED IN PART, THAT FREED US UP TO DO THIS? OBVIOUSLY, IT HAS AN INFLUENCE BECAUSE THEY CAN TELL US WHAT TO DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO, BUT IT'S MORE STEERED BY THE COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS THAT MANY COUNCIL BEFORE THAT LEGISLATION, WERE WE ABLE TO DO THIS OR WERE WE ABLE TO? I'M JUST WE HAVE A WE HAVE LOCAL LEGISLATORS. I WANT TO THANK FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS ISSUE.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT OKAY. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT EVEN BEFORE THE CHANGES. RIGHT.

THIS WAS IN OUR WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS. YES. OKAY. GOOD. WELL STILL, THANK YOU TO SENATOR MCLAURIN FOR HIS WORK IN THIS AREA. IS THERE A SO IF A CITIZEN OR A GUEST DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN, A RESIDENT FEELS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WRONGFULLY BOOTED. DO THEY HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE RECOURSE? CAN THEY CALL OUR NINE? I MEAN, WHAT CAN THEY DO? BECAUSE ONCE YOU'VE PAID THE MONEY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET IT BACK. WHAT DOES A CITIZEN DO IN THE MOMENT? IT'S A TOUGH CALL. YOU'RE KIND OF AT THEIR MERCY. AND WE HAVE THESE CALLS. PD HAS THEM ALL THE TIME. CODE ENFORCEMENT GETS THEM DURING THE DAYTIME. AND GENERALLY IT'S A CIVIL MATTER. AND WHAT WE DO, WHAT OUR STAFF HAS DONE IS MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE BOOTER IS COMPLIANT. WE HAD AS AN EXAMPLE, WE AT THE COVERED PARKING DOWN HERE BY WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT DOWN HERE, EL CIELO, JUST BELOW IT. SOME FOLKS HAVE PARKED. THE SIGN WAS TINY. THEY DIDN'T SEE IT. FOLKS WERE A LITTLE BIT OLDER EVEN THAN ME AND PAID TO PAID AND

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AND PART OF THE THE COURT'S RULING WAS TO REFUND THE MONEY THAT THAT'S ONE WAY, MR. DIGIULIO. DAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TRIED TO DO OVER THE YEARS IS TO CLEAN UP SIGNS, ESPECIALLY ALONG OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THIS IS GOING TO I MEAN, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO GET A SIGN PERMIT FOR EACH SIGN? AND ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T THINK SIGNS SHOULD BE THAT MANY SIGNS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF OF PUTTING UP THESE MONSTROUS SIGNS ON HERE UP AND DOWN ROSWELL ROAD. WELL. YEAH. AND IT'S ON ROSWELL ROAD. WELL, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THERE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE, I THINK, 41 PERMITTED BOOTERS. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT MEANS IF EACH ONE OF THEM HAD ONE PLACE AND SOME OF THEM HAVE MULTIPLE PLACES, THERE MAY BE LET'S SAY EVERYBODY HAS TWO. THERE'S 80. MOST OF THEM WOULD PROBABLY BE ON ROSWELL ROAD. THAT'S NOT A LOT OF SIGNS. AND THE SIGN 48IN TALL IS NOT THAT LARGE. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM. AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO GET A SIGN PERMIT. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE WOULD NOT. SO THEY JUST. SO THEY CAN JUST PUT THESE ON THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING LOT ON EACH PLACE. THEY'RE OR THEY'RE REQUIRED TO. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IF YOU PASS THIS AND NO SIGN PERMIT AND NO INPUT AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED ON WHERE THESE SIGNS WERE TO GO, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES IT TO BE AT EACH ANY ENTRANCE TO THE LOT.

RIGHT. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY ON THE ROADWAY. IT SHOULD BE. YEAH. WELL, IT'S ON THE PROPERTY, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW. BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALLOW SIGNS ON THE ROADWAY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT WON'T BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S ON THE PROPERTY AT THE ENTRANCE. THAT'S BASICALLY THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S WHERE THE.

BUT IT WON'T BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT WON'T BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO IT WON'T ACTUALLY BE IN THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING LOT. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE BACK. NO, I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, OKAY.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ROADWAY, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY ARE. BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY ENDS 12FT, ISN'T IT? NO. IT'S IN IT VARIES AROUND THE CITY.

ROSWELL ROAD IS MUCH BIGGER. IT'S PROBABLY 50. IT'S PROBABLY 75FT FROM CENTER. I THINK MAYBE 120 FROM CENTER. HOW MANY FEET FROM THE CURB? IT'S NOT FROM THE CURB. YOU MEASURE FROM THE CENTER CENTER LINE. AS A GENERAL PRACTICE, YOU COULD SAY A TYPICAL IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TYPICAL ROADWAY AND YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU TYPICALLY LOOK ABOUT A FOOT BEHIND THE BACK OF EITHER THE SIDEWALK OR THE CURB, WHATEVER YOU HAVE AVAILABLE. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD RULE OF THUMB GENERAL PRACTICE OR FOOT BEHIND GEORGIA POWER POLE, FOOT BEHIND THE GEORGIA POWER POLE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION.

THE QUESTION IS ON AGENDA ITEM 2025 203, AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SUBPART A, CHAPTER 58, ARTICLE FOUR, PARAGRAPHS 58 THROUGH 93 AND 58. DASH 96 OF THE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS CODE OF ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO VEHICLE IMMOBILIZATION SERVICES. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY

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AND IT WAS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME TO BE PART OF IT. IT'S NOT JUST AN HONOR FOR ME. I THINK IT'S AN HONOR FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF SANDY SPRINGS AND THE VALUES THAT WE ALL SHARE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY. SO I WAS JUST DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INAUGURAL MEETING TODAY. AND SO JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK STAN SANDY SPRINGS IN GREAT STEAD. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. ANYBODY ELSE, MR. BAUMAN, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. A COUPLE THINGS. SO THE HIGH POINT INCIDENT, WHICH MAY HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE A HOAX OR WHATEVER IT WAS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. IT'S A PARENT AND COMMUNITY MEMBER. IT'S A VERY FRIGHTENING THING. I HAVE A I DID GET SOME INPUT FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO PASS ALONG. DOES THE CITY, IS THE CITY CONSIDERED AN OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION CHANNEL AS IT RELATES TO A SCHOOL EVENT? I THINK THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WERE COMING. I'M NOT SURE THEY GOT ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT THEY WANTED OR HAD HOPED FOR FROM THE SCHOOL, BUT WHAT IS OUR ROLE IN COMMUNICATION ON A ON A SCHOOL EVENT? WE COORDINATE WITH THE SCHOOL. AND THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS SHARING WITH COUNCIL WAS COMING BOTH FROM THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS OUR FOLKS THAT WERE ON THE GROUND THERE. WELL, YEAH. NO, THE ISSUE IS IN COUNCIL, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF COMMUNICATING WITH US. THE QUESTION IS WE DO OFFICIAL ALERTS. DO WOULD A SCHOOL INCIDENT OR COULD A SCHOOL INCIDENT GO OUT THROUGH OUR OFFICIAL ALERTS? I TYPICALLY HAVE THEIR OWN. MY PAST PRACTICE WITH THAT HAS ALWAYS SEEMED THAT SCHOOL SYSTEMS SET UP THEIR OWN DIRECT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS WITH PARENTS, AND THEN THE CITY'S COMPLEMENTS THAT. SO THEY WOULD COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY TO THE PARENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED, AND THEN THE CITY'S WOULD BE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY. CAN YOU I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW TO SEE, AND I CAN SUGGEST PEOPLE REACH OUT WITH THEIR SPECIFIC CONCERNS. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME QUESTION ABOUT DISCLOSURE OF THE LOCATION TO WHICH STUDENTS WERE BEING RELOCATED. I HAD HEARD SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK IN THE MOMENT. CONCERN ABOUT THAT DISCLOSURE. AGAIN, I'M JUST JUST PASSING ALONG. BUT PARENTS WHO CARE VERY DEEPLY JUST WERE ASKING. THEY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE CITY RESPONSE. I ALSO RECEIVED FROM A DIFFERENT PARENT A QUESTION ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL POLICING. SO THE SCHOOLS DO NOT PUT AN ARMED RESOURCE OFFICER AS A MATTER OF POLICY. IS THAT RIGHT? AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. DEPUTY CHIEF, DO YOU KNOW THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ASSIGNED ONE THERE ALL DAY? THERE ARE ONES THAT FLOAT BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MULTIPLE AND SCHOOLS. AS A SEPARATE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I DO. WE DO PARTNER WITH THEM FREQUENTLY, BUT WE DO. AND I SHARED THAT WITH CITIZENS THAT THEY ASKED, WELL, WHAT ABOUT RESPONSE? I SAID, I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY. WE'VE DONE THIS PRIVATELY, THAT WE DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAINING.

I THINK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE DID A FORMAL AGREEMENT. IT DOES IT EVERY YEAR. WE JUST WE ALSO REACHED AN AGREEMENT. WE JUST DID THE PRIVATES. WE DID THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE WORK WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EVERY YEAR. THIS YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME, HOLY INNOCENTS HAD OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN. SO YES, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH WITH THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, MANY OF THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE OFF DUTY.

OFFICERS SERVE AS ALSO THEIR SECURITY. SO THAT'S THAT'S DOUBLE DIPPING AS TO THE DISCLOSURE OF WHERE THE KIDS WERE GOING, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM NEEDED TO LET THE PARENTS KNOW WHERE THEIR CHILDREN WERE AT ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS, JUST JUST SHARING THE FEEDBACK. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, BUT ALSO TO REASSURE EVERYBODY THEY WERE UNDER POLICE PROTECTION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY WERE BEING MOVED. SO THERE WAS NO, NO DANGER. BUT THE PARENTS, IF YOU MOVE THEIR KIDS, THEY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE FOR THE DISCLOSURE. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ONE OTHER QUESTION. CAN YOU UPDATE US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY GALA? WHO'S ORGANIZING IT? WHAT'S THE CITY? IS THE CITY PLAYING AN OFFICIAL ROLE IN THAT? I WAS I SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, A HOST COMMITTEE. HOW WAS THAT SELECTED? SO I JUST REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT AT THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL AGREE, BUT I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHAT WE BRIEFED. COUNCIL, AS YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK IN JUNE ON THE ENTIRE PLANS FOR THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR. I

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YOU'LL ALSO REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE THE ENTITY THAT RECEIVED THE DONATIONS TO SUPPORT THE ART IN VETERANS PARK, RIGHT? THAT IS THE SAME FOUNDATION THAT WAS FORMED TO SUPPORT THAT.

JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE SANDY SPRINGS POLICE FOUNDATION COMING TO PRESENT AT AN UPCOMING WORK SESSION. WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE SANDY SPRINGS FOUNDATION. DO YOU KNOW HOW THE HOST COMMITTEE WAS SELECTED FOR THAT EVENT? I DO NOT KNOW THAT I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. MAYOR PAUL WAS THE CHAIR OF THE OF THE FOUNDATION AND THE POLICE FOUNDATION UNTIL RECENTLY. CORRECT? I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. WELL, I WAS THERE JUST TO HELP GET THINGS SET UP AND THEN MOVED OUT JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD GET EVERYTHING SET UP. WE JUST NEED AN ORGANIZATIONAL GROUP TO GET THINGS GOING. AND THEN I'VE MOVED OFF OF THE POLICE FOUNDATION AND MOVING OFF THE THE FOUNDATION. SO, MAYOR PAUL, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE THE FOUNDATION, THE FOUNDATION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. RIGHT. AND YOU JUST MOVED OFF. WELL, YOU'RE STILL ON THE BOARD. YOU'RE JUST NOT THE CHAIR. RIGHT? SO, RUSTY, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT WHEN A CAMPAIGN IS PROMOTING AN EVENT, LIKE I HAVE AN IMAGE FROM, I JUST SAW A TICKET AND I JUST CAME UP WITH MY FEED, I PROBABLY SHOULD BLOCK IT. IT SAID THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY GALA EVENT BY RUSTY PAUL FOR SANDY SPRINGS MAYOR. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. I THINK IT CAME FROM YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

WELL, IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. I DON'T KNOW YOUR CAMPAIGN, I UNDERSTAND PAGE POSTED THIS AND IT SAYS A PUBLIC EVENT BY RUSTY PAUL FOR SANDY. WELL, THAT'LL BE CORRECT. I HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH THAT, I UNDERSTAND. DO YOU DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME THERE, BUT I'LL FIND OUT BECAUSE IT'S VERY ISSUE WITH WHO'S ON THE HOST COMMITTEE. IT'S VERY HOLD ON A SECOND. I HAVE THE FLOOR.

THIS IS VERY CONFUSING TO OUR COMMUNITY. I UNDERSTAND I'LL GET IT FIXED. I DIDN'T PUT THAT THERE MYSELF, I CAN ASSURE YOU. OKAY. SO YOU JUST PUTTING IT ON YOUR TEAM, I. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. MR. IT CAME FROM YOUR IT IS CORRECTED. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. THINGS GET POSTED ON FACEBOOK ALL THE TIME. I TAKE MR. MAYOR, I TAKE OWNERSHIP OF EVERY SINGLE THING ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE, AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CORRECTED. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT HOW THE HOST COMMITTEE GOT PICKED. GOT CHOSEN. IT READS LIKE A WHO'S WHO OF THE RUSTY PAUL FOR MAYOR CAMPAIGN. NO, IT READS AS A WHO'S WHO OF THIS.

LEADERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE FOUNDATION WERE THE ONES WHO DID IT. AND YOU'RE ON THE FOUNDATION BOARD AND WARD CHAIR. OKAY. I HAVE ASKED THAT THE DATE BE MOVED FROM THE THE GALA DATE BE MOVED TILL AFTER THE ELECTION. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I AGREE. I'M HAVING IT REMOVED RIGHT NOW. I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THERE. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO MY ATTENTION AND I WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT, BUT I'M GOING TO GET IT FIXED. CAN WE ADJOURN? PARDON? CAN WE ADJOURN IN JUST A SECOND? I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, DID YOU POST IT ON THERE YOURSELF? NO, I DID NOT. SO SOMEBODY FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN TEAM DID IT. I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT WHY, BUT I'M MAKING SURE IT'S CORRECTED RIGHT NOW. CITY MANAGER, WHILE WE'RE WORKING THAT, DO WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT? WE DO NOT. OKAY. MAYOR, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. I HAVE A MR. YEAH. GO AHEAD, I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECT, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. MR. LEE, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN FRONT OF ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. GO AHEAD. JUST WANT TO REPORT BACK TO YOU. AUTHORIZED THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO FILE AN ACTION IN SUPERIOR COURT TO

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THERE WAS A PARTY HOUSE AND BRINGING A LOT OF CONSTERNATION TO THE NEIGHBORS. WE HAD A HEARING THIS PAST WEEK IN THE SUPERIOR COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF SANDY SPRINGS TO ORDER THE COMMERCIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY, WATER, THE CITY, SUBSTANTIAL ATTORNEY'S FEES AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN PUT AN END TO THAT. AND WE HOPEFULLY WE CAN COMMUNICATE THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND WE CAN GET A LITTLE PUBLICITY THAT THAT SORT OF THING WON'T BE TOLERATED. AND KUDOS TO THE SUPERIOR COURT FOR HELPING US REMEMBER, THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD A CORPORATION AS AN OWNER OUT OF STATE WHO HAD THUMBED THEIR NOSE AT OUR COURT SYSTEM AND MISSED THREE DIFFERENT COURT DATES TO CITY COURT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE SUPERIOR COURT INVOLVED. AND LUCKILY WE'VE GOT A VERY GOOD ORDER ON IT. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. STAFF REPORTS.

ALL RIGHT, MR. DEGIULIO, MR. DEGIULIO MOVES. ADJOURNMENT. SECOND MOTION BY MR. DEGIULIO, SECONDED BY MR. PAULSON. ANY DISCUSSION? NO, WE DON'T NEED DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR,

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